--- In [email protected], sgrayatlarge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "Yes, the rudrabhisek is a yagya for peace"
> 
> Seems like we have been in a phase transition for over 30 years and 
> we don't seem anywhere near "peace". Either this works or it 
doesn't. 
> I don't see evidence that it does work. Aren't you and others just 
> making excuses based on a very questionable theory?
> 
> Shiva is appeased by both devas and asuras.
> 

*************

NASA did some work on the ketchup transition, and I believe it's 
relevant to the phase transition that MMY is talking about, which 
really began when Guru Dev left his cave to bring enlightenment to 
the world, determined to shake out the entropy.

Although the phenomenon of shear thinning in fluids is not really 
understood, it's analogous to another phase transition, the 
transition from high disorder in the Kaliyuga to the orderliness and 
bliss of the Sat Yuga:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/07jun_elastic_fluids.htm

The change from K- to S- yuga will be real quick, like ketchup 
leaving the bottle, but it's not obvious that anything is happening 
until it happens. As MMY sez, we're shaking the enlightenment bottle, 
and if you don't have confidence that that is what is happening, 
that's OK, but don't be surprised when the world changes:

"The evolutionary power is waking up. We shake it, then leave it; 
then after some time shake it again. Each time a new level of purity, 
awakening is added ..."





> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "george_deforest" 
> > <george.deforest@> wrote:
> > >
> > > im curious when did the maharishi say this?
> > > is it in response to something recent, like
> > > the monks in Burma getting killed?
> > > 
> > > or, is this a preperation for something
> > > "on the horizon" like another 9/11 that
> > > maharishi forsees?
> > > 
> > > or is this an old quote from some privious times ...
> > > we've been hearing about "phase transitions" since
> > > the 70's, for heaven sake!
> > > 
> > > ati rudra bishek, isnt that a yagya for peace?
> > > not "shaking" and "fast moving chaos" which is 
> > > the opposite
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > **********
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, the rudrabhisek is a yagya for peace, but those elements 
that 
> > resist being orderly and peaceful will be shaken out of the 
> picture, 
> > so we should avoid being shaken and just understand that the 
power 
> of 
> > nature is just doing its thing and is behind this transition to 
> > Satyuga:
> > 
> > "The evolutionary power is waking up. We shake it, then leave it; 
> > then after some time shake it again. Each time a new level of 
> purity, 
> > awakening is added ..."
> > 
> > > 
> > > > ve-da wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Be unshakable now!
> > > > We are in the middle of the phase transition.  -  Maharishi 
> > strongly
> > > emphasised the 
> > > > great need to be completely self-referral during these times 
of 
> > very
> > > rapid phase 
> > > > transition. He said that there was quite a lot of 
unsettledness
> > > ('bubbling around') in 
> > > > world consciousness at present and that it is the 
> responsibility 
> > of
> > > the whole 
> > > > meditating family, who are creating a stable basis for the
> > > transition to take place as 
> > > > quickly and as smoothly as possible, not to feel shaken. This 
is
> > > very necessary 
> > > > because on the surface the phase transition is so violent.
> > > > 
> > > > In order to establish order, disorder has to be shaken; and 
for 
> > that
> > > shaking to remain 
> > > > under control, we who are at the basis, at the level of Para, 
> have
> > > to be Para     i.e. 
> > > > unreachable by the surface turmoil. In that integrated state, 
> the
> > > fast moving chaos 
> > > > and change will pass away in a steady manner. So we have to 
be 
> > very
> > > steady.
> > > > 
> > > > Maharishi referred to the 'Sahasra Ati Sri Rudra Abhivishek' 
> yagya
> > > at present being 
> > > > performed ... and indicated that this was creating an enormous
> > > shaking around in 
> > > > world consciousness. Rudra corresponds to the dynamism value 
in
> > > nature (as 'RRR' 
> > > > in Rig-Veda) and this dynamism is what is being released by 
the
> > > yagya and causing 
> > > > the shaking at all levels of creation. When the eight 
prakritis 
> > (the
> > > basic building 
> > > > blocks of creation) are shaken, Apara (i.e. relativity) is 
> getting
> > > sorted out to come 
> > > > into coherence with Para (i.e. absolute). The yagya involves 
11
> > > times 11 times 11 
> > > > pundits ... 
> > > > 
> > > > We have to be careful not to get upset by little or big 
things. 
> If
> > > we loose our basis, 
> > > > our dignity, the phase transition will take much longer. 
Don't 
> > give
> > > importance to 
> > > > things which may upset us, Maharishi said. This is a very 
> precious
> > > time for the 
> > > > world. Everything depends on how our awareness is; just don't 
> let 
> > it
> > > be shaken. Our 
> > > > awareness is the basis of all these transformations. More 
than 
> > ever
> > > before we are 
> > > > ourselves. We are at the basis of the power of Rudra. Time 
> demands
> > > we remain 
> > > > completely ourselves. It is a very tender, delicate time for 
> > us    
> > > we should not 
> > > > become angry, indifferent, or sad, we should just be like an 
> > ocean.
> > > > 
> > > > The evolutionary power is waking up. We shake it, then leave 
it;
> > > then after some 
> > > > time shake it again. Each time a new level of purity, 
awakening 
> is
> > > added ... It is the 
> > > > awakening of both values: Para and Apara, says Maharishi.
> > > > 
> > > > Jai Guru Dev
> > >
> >
>


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