--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <boo_lives@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > > At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that 
> they 
> > intended 
> > > > > to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around 
> the 
> > world, at 
> > > > > several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell 
> Bevan 
> > et al 
> > > > > how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do 
> > not have 
> > > > > TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are 
> > drastically 
> > > > > underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are 
> plaques 
> > on the 
> > > > > sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these 
> are 
> > really 
> > > > > Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM 
> > from a monk 
> > > > > in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to 
> that. 
> > Building 
> > > > > these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't 
> matter 
> > what the 
> > > > > ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to 
> > create 
> > > > > this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not 
> enough 
> > > > > hillbillies in the world to stop it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
> > > > 
> > > > It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in 
> touch 
> > with
> > > > reality.
> > > > 
> > > I am laughing "myself to death" . This is the effect of laughter 
> > like this, the me is gone in 
> > > the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line response
> > > 
> > > Hridaya
> > 
> > I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest reading 
> > material and meetings for the "enlightened" to stay "enlightened" 
> > Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ?   ;-)
> >
> ouch!:-)
>
The ouch would be questioning the methodology of a guru that has brought 5 to 
enlightenment since 1999. Nityananda, Guru to Muktananda sadly left his body 
early 
declaring that there were none ( and Muktananda is one of his disciples), and 
this was not 
long ago.

Even in this case, it was probably not an ouch as the methodology was 
reasonable. The 
real ouch is where there are none enlightened after a long presence - then in 
looking at 
the methodology, it may be quite obvious why this has happened. There are wild 
things 
taking place with Gurus these days.

Hridaya

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