--- In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest > > reading > > > > material and meetings for the "enlightened" to > > stay "enlightened" > > > > Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ? ;-) > > > > > > > The update in my path here is My Guru said there are 5 that have > > unfolded in Realization. > > > Maybe it is even 6 or 7. When Sarojini came in, my Guru's comments > > were something like > > > now we dont wont the mind to reroot, then she told her to read > > some scripture- I forget > > > which one, but Sarojini did it immediately. > > > > > > I don't question too much about anything anymore, I did in the > > begining but it is not > > > necessary now. why why why is not some much of interest to me, > > things are as they are. > > > Main thing is - when you get there, it is never what you thought > > it was. > > > > If you are enlightened there is no possebility to "reroot". > > Enlightenment is irreversible. If it is not permanent it simply is > > something other than enlightenment. > > I am not one of those enlightened but this comment is what my Guru says. However, you > can find plents as i did in the last 2 years that even with the mind "rerooting', they still > claim enlightenment. My Guru says where there is a "me", there is no enlightenment. The > 'me' has imploded into Being or IS or absolute or what ever word you want to use. > > > Which, as if I ever doubdted this, means that the people you have > > been duped to believe are enlightened are more or less as ignorant > > as the majority of the rest of us. > > > > There has not been any rerooting of the mind- and in this path the Guru is right here to > look after the disciples to ensure that they have come to enlightenment and not a glimpse. > My expereince has been with the 20 or so that declareed enlightenment where it was not > the case, was it usually was a glimpse, the mind rerooted, the guru was either not > available or there was no guru in the first place, then they were decalring enlightenment > even though mind was still there. > > Even what I am writting would be objected to most likely by the same ones I am referring > to. I watched a you tube presentation of one explaining what enlightenment was based on > his own experience. in this explaination, he said - the mind comes back in enlightenment. > What is the mind? What is the ego? > > So, there is not even an agreement on this but I can pass along what my Guru has to say- > in enlightenment , one knows 100% they are not the mind, not the body. There is no one > to be enlightened, and a quote from my Guru "I never existed nor will I ever" > > > So, this mind rerrooting is only a glimpse here in my path which my Guru explains does > not hold a candle to Nivakalpa Sahaj Samadi, but it appears in other paths the mind > rerrooting is enlightenmetn. > > This was just a long commentary which is about equll to me expalining what ice cream > tastes like having not tasted it myself. If you are going to argue my points , it is an honest > thing to first state where it is that your consciousness rests, especially if one is going to > speak with athority about what can and cannot happen to an enlightened one. > > If it is two people speaking to each other about the ice cream that they themselves have > never tasted, how valuable is it ? The intellectual understanding of what ice cream tastes > like doesnt hold a candle to the tasting of it. > > too late now, i just typed alot, it could be like the blind leading the blind. > > Hridaya
Wherever you are I'm sure there will be an organization of some sort that will be happy to lend white sticks to both your guru and your 5 enlightened ones.
