HP :> Well lemme think, what would be the purpose in knowing or
believeing that my Guru has
> brought 5 to enlightenment since 1999. For those interested in a
Guru who may be
> available to work with, it would be most useful I would guess.

Nabby: Of course, if it was true. But since it is just a contradicting
story from you it has 0, zero, nada value whatsoever.

HP: if an enlightened Guru were available to work with you one to one that has 
brought 
people to enlightenment, and then this would be useful to you as you claim, 
then please 
let me know how it would be useful?

Do you think that any enlightened Guru is going to accept you when you insist 
on doing 
your TM and keep up with and taking instructions from MMY?  Or do you think by 
going to 
this Guru and taking blessings or darshan that this is going to propel you to 
enlightenment?

My opinion is if you are happy with TM fine, then why would you need another 
guru? This 
is why weather you believe my Guru is enlightened or not , either way, it has 
no bearing in 
your life right now, nothing changes for you. 

For me, the belief that my Guru is enlightened has a major impact, major change 
in my 
life because based on this belief, I have gone into the path full force, 
adopted the 
practices, received transmissions, which is grace, and entered into a state of 
peace that 
prior to this was not there.

So, believing one way or the other in itself has very insignificant effect, it 
is the course of 
action put into place based on a belief that can move mountains.

Hridaya

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