--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > About YS III.37 - > > Card: please note that the sutra in question is #37 not 38. All my > translations are the same in the numbering sequence. You apparently have > an extra sutra in your edition, either by addition or bifurcation.
I know that. In Chip's translation http://www.arlingtoncenter.org/Sanskrit-English.pdf III 22 (etena shabdaadyantardhaanam uktam) seems to be the "extra" suutra. Taimni also has that. > > > > YS III.37: te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhayaH > > > > "They (siddhi-s) are sub-flows away from samadhi but attainments in > the emergent (waking) state" > > > > Te = they (from tad) > > Samaadhi = synthesis1 (sam + aa + dhaa,'to put'; lit. > `putting together') > > Upasargaah = a suborning outflow2, obstacle (from upa `sub-` + > the root [s.rj, `to emit or effuse';`an efflux') > > Vyuthaana = outward, external, emergent; here: active, waking state > > Siddhi = attainment (from sidh `to succeed, achieve, > accomplish') > > > > Vyasa: > > They (praatibha and other siddhi-s.) are obstructions when they arise in The Sanskrit expression is 'te praatibhaadayaH' (praatibha + aadayaH). The form 'aadayaH' is nominative plural from 'aadi', which means 'beginning'. Thus, 'praatibhaadayaH' would literally means 'praatibha-beginnings'. Used like that, 'aadi' or its inflected forms (aadayaH, aadiSu, etc.) are Sanskrit equivalent to 'etc'. (When the word 'aadi' is in nominative singular, it's a bit easier to grasp the idea of that expression, like in BS I 2: janmaadyasya yataH < janma + aadi; asya yataH). The idea seems to be that it refers to an enumeration, whose first item is in this case 'praatibha'. Thus, I'm inclined to think, that according to Vyaasa, the demonstrative pronoun 'te' refers to the "list" in the previous suutra (36 or 37): praatibha-shraavaNa.... IMO, it would be a bit illogical to mention 'praatibha' as the first (aadi: ""beginner"") siddhi, because elsewhere in the III book it appears in III 33 (34): praatibhaad vaa sarvam and the first siddhi mentioned in the III book is 'atiitaanaagatajñaanam' in III 16. Unless 'praatibha' is thought to be some kind of "king" of siddhis. > a collected mind (samaahita chitta). When they appear in a mind that is > active and externalized, they are attainments. > > > > Shankara adds: > > These siddhis arising from pratibhaa, for someone in the state of > samaadhi, in the self are obstacles as they obstruct vision of purusha. > Though they rise due to sanyama on purusha still they do not happen in > the case of a samaadhi mind that is completely detached. > > > > > > 1. The word samaadhi is cognate with `synthesis': i.e. the > combining of separate elements or substances to form a coherent whole. > (Latin, `a collection', from Greek sunthesis, from suntithenai, > to put together: (sun-, syn + tithenai, to put; from the root [dhe, to > set, to put). > > > > 2. The word upasarga is usually translated as `obstacle', as > that which "stands against"; however it literally means a > subordinate effusion; thus if the purpose of the samaadhi is to remain > in unbroken attention to discernment (viveka) of the difference between > purusha and buddhi-sattva, then the flowing out of attention back onto > objects is an obstacle to remaining in that awareness. >
