Research has shown again and again that ordinary folks are very willing to hurt 
others with electric shock in laboratory settings.  Experience has shown again 
and again that folks do not interfere when they see someone hurt someone else.  
Add to that absolute devotion to a guru, the brainwashing of minds made 
susceptible through meditation (the beliefs about not being the doer etc), egos 
willing to do anything to prove they're enlightened, group isolation, belief in 
establishing heaven on earth, and doing God's will, and you've got a recipe for 
what happened in Germany.  Call it psychosis or what you will, it happened on a 
very large scale in Germany.  I don't think Germans are any more psychotic than 
anyone else.  We are all subject to social engineering when you get us young 
enough. a

jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               --- In 
[email protected], Angela Mailander 
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Atrocities are very possible when you believe that a) you are not 
 the doer, b) it's all an illusion anyway, c) the atrocities are 
 committed as a means to heaven on earth for a thousand years, and d) 
 death is not real.  a
 > 
 
 I think in order to commit attrocities, there has to be a fundamental 
 lack of empathy for our fellow human beings, and I've heard that 
 called sociopathy. Whatever else the sociopath uses as justification 
 for hurting and killing others is just rationalizing this basic lack 
 of empathy for others. 
 
 It doesn't follow at all thnat if we are experiencing a), b) and d) 
 above, that we are therefore capable of comitting attrocities. As for 
 c), that sounds psychotic.
 
 
     
                               

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