-If one holds a specific meaning of a mantra, it seems to me, that one 
is not only holding a limiting value of meaning, but is getting caught 
on a superficial level, instead of transcending to the deeper levels 
of consciousness. 
More important than any specific meaning, is the ability to transcend 
using the sound, the vibration, of the mantra.
The whole misunderstanding of meditation, I believe, is the notion, of 
getting caught up on meaning, rather than transcending all meaning and 
establishing consciousness, in that field which is transcendental to 
all meaning...

-- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Heh. So, common sense tells me esoteric Hindu/Vedic details?
> 
> MMY doesn't teach meaningful mantras, by his own explanation of how 
TM 
> works.
> 
> 
> 
> =====What does Mahalakshmi mean exactly? What does Mahakali mean 
exactly?  These devas exist in the energetic realm that is outside of 
our exact space/time frame. Therefore meditation on them is outside of 
conventional meaning. Without losing nothing of the meaning 
of "meaningless sounds" the mantras can still have deep meanings. Just 
like the word, MAH, is meaningless and has vague notions to most but 
specific notions to those who use the word Mah for their mother. These 
mantras are especially meaningless to Westerners but not so to those 
in India. "Meaningless sounds" is merely a rhetorical device...





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