--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I am married to a wonderful, beautiful Vedic > wife > > > > who I adore, and > > > > with whom I have a very loving relationship. > And I > > > > like women, and > > > > enjoy being in the company of the female > > > > vibration. I just don't > > > > require to have sex with any of them. So, I > found > > > > that transcending > > > > the sex drive has enabled me to enjoy the > company > > > > of women for what > > > > they are and not for what I used to need to > get > > > > from them. > > > > Guy > > > > > > That's cool, guy, but ya gotta admit you look > down > > > upon those who don't feel the way you do. > > > > > > That's elitism, in spades. Whatever benefits > you > > > may have received from your chosen path in life, > > > > you also picked up a real nasty samskara. > > > > Unc, where do you see this elitism in Guy's posts? > I > > just don't see it at all. You are one of the more > sane > > people on this list, so I take your responses > > seriously. > > Big mistake. :-) I don't take myself seriously, > and merely hope that others follow suit. As for > sanity, this is one of the first times I have > ever been accused of it. > > > ...I mean, if he finished every sentence with, > > "...you mala covered samsara smeared dogs." I'd > > understand, but short of that, I don't see it at > all. > > Well, you have to remember that I consider pretty > much the *entire* TM trip based on an appeal to > elitism. "Governors," "rajas," the clear > distinction > between 'lowly' meditators and teachers, the > carefully- > promoted concept that the closer one is to Maharishi > in space, the more evolved one is, the promotion of > wealth being an indicator of evolution, TM being > "the > best" technique in the world, siddhas "saving" the > world, lotsa stuff. > > In Guy's posts, the things that struck me as elitist > were those things, especially the harping on "being > on Maharishi's staff," with the implication that he > thus had a better perspective and knew more than > others. The telling of a story that happens on a > daily basis in some traditions as if it were a > miracle > could be seen as a tad elitist, but that's probably > just because it was such a big deal for him > personally. > > But in my book, it's the carefully-constructed dogma > that taking a celibate path is *superior* to taking > other paths that strikes me as elitist. If it were > someone talking about celibacy as a concept, it > might > not be. But since the dude went out of the way to > point out that it was *his* path, how hard it was > for him to follow this superior path for so long, > and how long he's been doing it, then it becomes > elitism in my book. > > And finally, the attempt to tell an pretty ordinary > story as if it should impress others to the same > extent it impressed him, and drive all doubts about > Maharishi away, and then to declare anyone who > doesn't > react that way unevolved dogs is...uh...a tad > suspect. > > The fellow is probably a really nice guy when he's > not trying to stifle doubt and dissent and get > people > back into the "evolved" way of thinking. But since > I > hadn't encountered him before, his appearance here > with the *clear* implication that he was higher than > others here because he was pursuing a higher path > (celibacy) just set my teeth on edge. Your reply to > him was *far* more compassionate than mine; I admire > you for that. It's just that I've been dealing with > this type of guy for so long, in so many trips, that > I've gotten a bit Tom Cruise-ish in how I react to > them. That may not cause others to think well of > me, > but like him I don't really give much of a shit > about > what people think of me. > > In other words, as in all things, your mileage may > vary, and that's just fine... > > Unc Thanks for the response! -Peter > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
