--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Phil
> > Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Another interpretation of the observation below
> > about the use of 
> > > antidepressants: a lot of TM veterans might have
> > been clinically 
> > > depressed for years and hoping that the program
> > would cure the 
> > problem -
> > > - and/or assuming that getting help for the
> > condition was 
> > > somehow "unspiritual."  In which case, finally
> > doing something 
> > about it 
> > > may be a sign of maturity as much as
> > disillusionment with the TMO.  
> > By 
> > > the way, I say this because I spoke to a scientist
> > who recently 
> > > published a study on the use of antidepressants
> > among long-term 
> > > Buddhist meditators, so it's not unique to the TM
> > world.  This, of 
> > > course, does not in any way diminish the very real
> > despair caused 
> > by 
> > > finding out the emperor has fewer clothes than one
> > imagined.  
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I'm on prozac and my son is on something else. We
> > both meditate and 
> > > swear by it. That we have something a bit tougher
> > than TM by itself 
> > can 
> > > handle doesn't invalidate TM. I was told to go to
> > sleep by 9PM 
> > every 
> > > night and I almost never do. Maybe TM + 9PM
> > bedtime would be 
> > enough, 
> > > who can say?
> > 
> > According to Mahaaraaja Nader Raama's book yoga is
> > "connected"
> > to the cerebral cortex. I wonder if that's why
> > meditation is
> > not necessarily very effective in treating primarily
> > emotional 
> > problems, like depression. OTOH, I seem to recall
> > you use fluoxetine 
> > for OCD, or stuff. But I guess there might be a
> > strong emotional
> > component in OCD, too.
> 
> OCD is an anxiety disorder. The obsessions and
> compulsions are a defense against an emotionally
> disorganized experience. The source of the
> disorganization has to be addressed.
> 
> 

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