> > > Now, now. DOn't let the facts get in the way of the hate-fest...
> > 
> > I don't think that there is hate here. People are just trying to
> > understand what's going on. No need to charge up the retoric.
> > Criticism sure, dislike sure, hate-fest, I doubt it.
> 
> I see it a bit differently. Every time a negative story about MMY is 
> recounted, there's a crowd of people here  who automatically accept 
> it as true. These same people automatically doubt or reject outright 
> any positive story.

One of the differences, Lawson, is that many if not
most of the people here are TM *teachers*, as opposed
to the forum you're more used to.  They've been around
the block a few times, heard all the stories, and have
found out for themselves how many of the "postive" ones
are a steaming pile of bull crap.  And, more important,
they've been on the "front lines" for years or decades,
dealing with these same questions from others, telling
them the same bull crap, as they were taught to.

Look at the home page for this group, at the "mission
statement" posted there.  This is a place for people who
think for themselves, and are proud of that.  When some-
one comes here trying to impress by telling the same old
warmed-over tall tales we've heard for years, using 
*exactly* the same words they were told in when we first
heard them, using *exactly* the same words *we* used when
*we* told them, or were *taught* to tell them, it doesn't
quite have the effect you are hoping for.

Is there dissatisfaction here with Maharishi personally
and the TM organization?  Well, duh?  How could one be
a thinking individual looking at either dispassionately
and not feel some dissatisfaction?  The difference between
this forum and others you are more used to is that no one
here is waiting in the wings to stomp such dissatisfaction
out and label those who feel it as traitors or "anti-TMers"
or worse.  And when someone tries, as you seem to be doing
these days, the response is usually to laugh at them for
trying rather than lash out in return.  We've all been 
there, done that so many times that most people just have
developed a tolerance for those who try to "defend" Maha-
rishi by lashing out at his critics and/or repeating the
same tired old stories, under the theory that if you 
repeat them often enough, people will actually believe
they're true.  That may work for America when the Bushies
do it, but I don't think you're gonna get very far doing
it here.

Just some friendly advice, guy.  You know that I like you,
but you're coming across as a bit of a fundamentalist, in
a crowd that got over that shit years ago.

Unc






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