--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], t3rinity 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > It is clear from this account, directly by the Samhita of 
the 
> > > > > > Veda, that criticism of ones spiritual path, and of ones 
> > > > > > spiritual preceptor must be seen as a sin against the 
gods 
> > > > > > themselves, whom the preceptor represents. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > While I respect both you and your devotional approach
> > > > > to spirituality, Michael, I think that you have come
> > > > > to believe that scripture was written by God.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, you have no idea who wrote what when. For all we 
know, 
> > the 
> > > > NT is exaxtly as the Fundamentalists say. 
> > > 
> > > The problem with this point of view is that it discourages any
> > > discrimination. It's always amazed me that the New Age tendency 
to
> > > discourage judgement has turned into 'it's bad to judge'. It's
> > > incredible that we have all this remarkable discriminative 
ability 
> > and
> > > we not supposed to use it. I thought enlightenment was the 
> > the "crest
> > > jewel of discrimination".
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually, for all you know, all New Agers are correct. I'm not 
> > defending New Agers or the NT or MMY here, I'm only pointing out 
that 
> > the assumption that the Believers are wrong is a matter of Faith 
also.
> 
> No, that's exactly what I mean, giving up the possibility of making 
a
> judgement, or only the enlightened ones can judge (and they do). 
After
> 20 or 30 years on the path maturity means deciding for oneself.  

Deciding for *oneself*. Telling people that what they believe is 
plain wrong, based on your OWN beliefs, isn't deciding for oneself: 
its deciding for the OTHER person, also.

Ever
> notice that quite a few people have made their most signifcant
> progress after leaving Maharishi - Amber Terrel, Susan Segal, all 
the
> beakaway folks, SSRS etc... Maybe it's just growing up. Son becomes 
a
> father, Student becomes a teacher. It happens.
> 
> JohnY

Notice that some people never felt they were "with" Maharishi and 
make their own progress with or without making a big deal of whether 
or not they are "with" him?





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