-In regard to the last post: there is no fear, because the ego is 
the origin of fear, due to it's quality of seperating,...everything..
whereas the Self, there is unity, no need to fear...anything, as to 
fear requires you to feel threatened or seperated from something, or 
disconnected, etc, all of the stuff the ego call up to verify 
itself...

-- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > We automatically call our "self" the most permanent set of 
things 
> > present in our mental landscape. For most, these include 
> personality, 
> > beliefs, habits, emotions, etc. When somone has 24/7 witnessing, 
the 
> > most permanent aspect of their existance is that 24/7 
witnessing, so 
> > by "definition," that is their self.
> 
> ***
> By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In other 
> words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered these 
words. 
> Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The 
mothering 
> function is happening. It is happening better than if there were a 
> mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to herself in 
> relation to her child. From an outsider's perspective, "she" was 
> obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self.




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