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--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

**SNIP**

> By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In other 
> words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered these words. 
> Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The 
mothering 
> function is happening. It is happening better than if there were a 
> mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to herself in 
> relation to her child. From an outsider's perspective, "she" was 
> obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self.

**END**

"The ego(self) is as real as the 'it' in 'It's raining.'"
     -- paraphrase from something posted last year on FFL  
No it at all. Just raining.





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