--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] > > > > > > The water, > > > > Awareness is not noticably affected by the infusion of mud. its > > > this quality that I see lacking in many reports of so called > higher states. And in some behaviors. > > > > > > > > > Very good point. > > > > But what behaviors show enlightenment? > > The discussion is not about enlightnement. Indeed I find it pointless > to discuss something that no one on the list appears to be able to or > willing to clearly and conisely define the term as they mean it or > experience it. Other than Peter, who did offer up a nice concise > personal definition -- but even he appears unwilling or unable to > answer a simple follow-up question: is this attribute both necessary > and sufficient? > > The above discussion is about an experience that may or may not have > anything to do with enlightenment but is something I think many have > experienced. Yet, I noted with interest, many /most enlightenment > proponents do not include such descriptions in their discourses. > > The point was that some behaviors -- such as outburst of anger and > frustration -- are counter to the experience of a substantial depth of > Awareness present along with activity. The analogy used, which to me > is very experientially real, parallel to the analogy, is that of a > lake (corresponding to Awareness) -- when it is deep, mud that enters > does not muddy the water and the water is still appreciated as clean > and pure. > > Some will argue "Consciusness / Awareness has Nothing to do with > behaviors such as anger!" I counter that yes that is true when the > lake is shallow -- building on the analogy -- but there is a noticible > lessening of such behavior when the lake becomes deeper.
Perhaps, but you can't be sure. There may be situations where the only appropriate response is extreme anger [-appearance] and violent activity (Jesus and the money-changers in the temple, for instance). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
