--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > <but actual provable lies.> > > This standard is absurd in this context. I'll give you the ones that > I know he made in my movement career that effected me personally. I > am in no position to "prove" any of these to you especially > considering your own bias.
You're playing fast and loose with the distinction between falsehoods and lies. That's not as "deep" as your usual thinking IMO! If I say to you "tomorrow I think it might snow some", and then it doesn't. What do you think - that I LIED to you? A child might think that of its parent. "Mummy you lied to me, you promised snow!". Or... a disciple might think that of his God. But do you see that? YOU made MMY your god, then you turn against him for being human! I admit I was more than a TB in the past than I am now - but I never, never, thought MMY was my god or even my guru (or that he asked that of me). > CC in usually experienced in 7 years. > > 3 years in Sidhaland to master the sidhis. (Directly promised to > people who signed on.) > > The third generation of crops from the seeds we saved grown on > sidhaland would grow into amazing plants. > > Three years of unpaid labor at sihaland would pay for TTC. > > MIU students would have their phase I and II honored after their > graduation if they finished their degrees. Again directly promised to > us right from Switzerland in a directly answered question. Right after > graduation he said our TTC phase I and II from MIU was not valid and > we had to do them both again. > > That his teachers would have their ATR credits gained from their hard > work of initiations honored instead of being eliminated after the fact. > > He doesn't care about money because his dhoti had no pockets. > > People would actually fly with his flying sutra. > > That TM improves people's social behavior. > > That TM makes people more creative or intelligent. > > That TM and Ayur Veda gives you perfect health when his last decade's > health was pathetic. > > That's off the top of my head. Your challenge is ridiculous because > we all decide for ourselves how credible the guy was. You have your > own standards and I have mine. But if you lived in his fulltime > organization you saw promises given and reneged on time after time. It > usually involved money. OURS becoming HIS. > > > yes, cling desperately-- you come across as this super reasonable, > > i'm ok, you're ok guy most of the time, curtis, but if someone > > challenges your blind spot biases, its a whole nother story. > > I don't know what blind spot you think you have challenged. I think > it is likely that a famous guy like Maharishi banged some chicks. You > don't. Where is the blind spot? I'm not clinging to anything, I > could be wrong. So could you. > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > i am curious why some of those here, like Vaj, and Curtis and > > > > geezerfreak and Barry feel it is so important to cling > > deperately to > > > > the possibility that the Maharishi was a liar in terms of his > > sex life? > > > > > > "Cling desperately" huh? The guy lied about all sorts of stuff > > > > yes, cling desperately-- you come across as this super reasonable, > > i'm ok, you're ok guy most of the time, curtis, but if someone > > challenges your blind spot biases, its a whole nother story. > > > > ok, you're on, please list five things that you can prove the > > Maharishi lied about. not differences of opinion, or quotes out of > > context, but actual provable lies. > > >
