--- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> It seems that awareness is necessary for thoughts to happen but 
> thoughts are not necessary for awareness to happen. Awareness 
> without thinking is still awareness of something, only there are no 
> thoughts. Can't really think about it but I'm sure we have all 
> experienced it.
> 
> Rick Carlstrom

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A few years ago I had a long lasting experience of just witnessing
without any discernible thoughts as I had used to have. As this state
had lasted for may be 3-4 hours, while I had been all the time doing
my normal daily chores at home, I felt a suggestion to come from deep
inside to go to cycling in the city to see if the state lasts. I went
for a 15-20 minutes ride and it lasted.

Later I have analysed this experience and come to the following
conclusion: Thoughts by words following each other in time actually
were not there, but another form of more effective thinking that
happens not by words and sentences. We all have this kind of thinking,
but we observe only the grosser level thinking by words.
I think this way also animals think or make sense of the world,
although with the human brain capacity this kind of thinking can be
much more cognitively advanced. 
I think all my deeper insights and ideas have come this way. Also in
my work in engineering.

But if you want to share these ideas with others I must find words to
describe them.  This is usually the much more difficult part. Insights
usually appear spontaneously in a blink of an eye. The laborious part
is to find expressions in words, if I want to share my insights.

Irmeli




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