--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On May 31, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > >> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Oh, I'm sorry, I must have missed the restriction on > >>> this thread that any example of not being content with > >>> Here And Now has to be an exact analog of TMers not > >>> being content with Here And Now. > >> > >> I mentioned the TM thang because it's usually > >> the only way to get the people on this forum > >> to respond to a broader question. :-) > >> > >> The broader question is spiritual movements > >> and spiritual teachers who "sell futures" > > > > Are there spiritual movements/teachers who *aren't* selling some > > kind of modified future? It seems to me that they all do it, whether > > it's a future with perfected siddhis, rainbow body, kundalini > > markers, samadhi, enlightenment, Waking Down brand Second Birth > > Awakening, an afterlife in heaven instead of hell, or whatever. Even > > Eckhard Tolle, with his Power of Now, is selling a future where > > people are content with Here and Now. > > If I follow your logic, then all paths are causal? I'm not familiar with the term 'causal' as applied to spiritual paths. Barry posed the question of paths that sell the future, and on the basis of my perception that they all do (however limited my perception may be) I inquired if there are paths that don't.
> What about acausal pathless paths? I don't know what those are. Would that be something along the lines of U.G. Krishnamurti?
