On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:46 AM, Richard M wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
[snip]
A causal path is a gradual path where the result may be glimpsed
along the way, but the end result is in the future. Such paths
can be described as having a structure View (the way-of-seeing)
-> Path -> Fruit (or realization).
What about acausal pathless paths?
In a pathless path one gains the perspective or View of realization,
the Fruit, from the beginning; and then applies the Fruit as the
Path.
Why bother? If you've "got fruit" you've got fruit.
It's basically the difference between sudden realization vs. gradual
realization. Some people have the capacity to realize their essential
fruitiness :-) other have to plant a seed, grow a tree and wait for
the fruit to ripen.
Because you are glimpsing the result along the way? What "way"? Where
do you glimpse the result, if not in the future?
The "way" would be along the path.
Seems to me "causal path" v "acausal pathless paths" is a difference
that makes no difference.
They're actually very different. Think about it for a while.
Since the Path in this case is the Fruit, there really is no
path per se, you're already there; that's why it's a pathless path.
I only have some passing familiarity with Krishnamurti, they sound
similar based on what I remember. I just remember reading some
Krishnamurti when I was an avid TMer and I just remember being
offended! Pretty funny how things change.
I too remember reading Krishnamurti as an avid TMer. I was not the
least bit offended. Funny how we differ.
I was probably more of a TB than you. Avid = Vaj the TM TB.
