On Jul 9, 2004, at 6:04 PM, Llundrub wrote:

>  I can't see how the ME could
> really work--it lacks the correct motivation--it lacks bodhichitta.
>
>
> ----Vaj, sometimes you surprise me at your anti - TMness. Getting 
> together in huge groups to pacify war and bring about positivity is 
> ipsoo facto Bodhicitta. Moreover, the shakti generated is also 
> Bodhicitta. So where is there not bodhicitta?

Just stating the facts--esp. in regards to how they came out on this 
list. We have first hand accounts of how the TMSP came about and why. 
Honestly I think these are questions you need to find for yourself. 
What is Bodhichitta? Can it be obtained through mediation on worldly 
deities? How is it applied at the level of tantra (which is where 
levitation would be as Path)? Does the TMSP even follow the Bodhichiita 
of intention? Is so, how does it apply and attain the four 
immeasurables? While I don't expect anyone to take anything someone 
else states for granted, I suspect you would come to similar 
conclusions if you investigate this on your own, with your own 
experience.

On the other hand I well know ego will want to acquire as it's own 
anything it once had. Therefore I never find it surprising when someone 
tries to fudge some previous practice they did as part of another very 
different path.

I think you're just fudging Kirk. Perhaps we should all just sit around 
a campfire and sing 'Kum By Yah" and everything will be better?

I'm not necessarily "anti-TM" but I'm also not going to lie about what 
I see.



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