--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> Lots of conditioning in the 2nd lecture (Bubble diagram) 2nd
> day-checking (Theory of Stress-release), group-effect. 
> enlightenment, 'scientific validation', everything, every little 
> thing is conditioning. You will realize this only when you leave TM 
> or join a different group with different spiritual ideas. 
> Conditioning is not always bad, one kind of conditioning can undo 
> another kind (thorn removes thorn)

Depending on exactly how you're defining
"conditioning," I would question whether
you can't become aware of conditioning
unless you leave the source.

I would also question whether coming to
believe that something one has been taught
is true is always a function of conditioning.
Again, maybe it depends on how you're defining
the term, but you seem to be ruling out the
possibility that one can be taught something,
accept it provisionally (or even remain
skeptical) for a time, and only become
convinced of it on the basis of one's own
experience and observation.

If one arrives at a conclusion by such a
process, I wouldn't call it conditioning.





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