--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > In the video Kai Druhl comes across as a christian
> > > fundamentalist
> > > nut.
> > > You can almost hear the reporter cringing, as Kai
> > > says that "TM
> > > prevents the experience of Jesus".
> > > 
> > > What a nut.
> > 
> > I don't think he's a nut at all. I completely
> > understand the point he's making. It's a subtle
> > conflict between the approaches of bhakti and gyana. A
> > bhakti surrenders to God. A gyani takes on the
> > responsibility of his own evolution through the
> > practice of techniques and life-style changes. Only at
> > the end of the path does a gyani finally transcend his
> > bondage into God, while a bhakti starts with this
> > assumption and approach.
> 
> The practice of TM doesn't involve surrendering
> to God right from the start??
> 
> Isn't that what you're doing every time you go
> back to the mantra?  Or at least every time you
> transcend?
> 
> That's how I think of TM, at any rate, as a
> systematic process of surrender to the
> Ultimate.>>

Technically, yes. 
However, the terminology means  different things. 
Jesus is considered by born again Christians to be an external 
entity to which you must ask for forgiveness for your sins. He will 
come back in human form one day (soon)and kill all the sinners and 
non-christians, and place the  christians  in heaven (but only the 
arm waving ones). Everyone else will be burned and tortured in hell 
pain for eternity.

Do you see the difference?







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