--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another one: > > The respondent below is exactly correct that Karpatri was first to be > offered the position. He was a direct disciple of SBS and suggested he be > offered the position. Later he was one of the major opponents of > Shantananda (whom he didn't feel was qualified) and was reoffered the > position. > > Dana
And turned it down, which makes him kinda out of the loop, IMHO. "I don't want it and that guy isn't qualified." > > > Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Friday, July 1, 2005 at 12:45 PM > wrote: > > > >Still more > > > >------ Forwarded Message > >From: Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:06:11 -0400 > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in > >the 20th Century > > > > > >On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:46 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:55 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > >MY position comes from Anoop Chandola's conversation with his > >meditation teacher, > >Swami Shantananda Saraswati, closest disciple of Swami Brahamanda > >Saraswati, AKA > >"Gurudev" on this forum. No account denies that Swami Shantananda > >Saraswati was > >Gurudev's closest disciple --most people here, however, prefer to > >think that S. > >Shantananda "wasn't worthy" of his position, and that another Swami, > >who was never > >Gurudev's disciple, was (that's who the other Shankaracharya of > >Jyotirmath was at the time > >Chandola learned meditation: someone picked by committee who wasn't > >even a student of > >Gurudev --by the committee's view NOT ONE of Gurudev's students was > >worthy). > > > > > >You seem to not be aware of a number of things 1) the Shankaracharya is > >not necessarily the one who chooses his successor > > > > > > > >So the successor is generally chosen over the wishes of the > >Shankaracharya? > > > > > >That's not what I said. Please read it again :-). > > > > > > > > > > > >and 2) you seem to > > > > > >assume the SBS's will was really his will. It had been disputed. > > > > > > > >By whom? Did they take it to court? What was the result? > > > > > >I believe it was one of the Akharas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --most people here, however, prefer to think that S. > >Shantananda "wasn't worthy" of his position, and that another Swami, > >who was never > >Gurudev's disciple, was (that's who the other Shankaracharya of > >Jyotirmath was at the time > >Chandola learned meditation: someone picked by committee who wasn't > >even a student of > >Gurudev --by the committee's view NOT ONE of Gurudev's students was > >worthy). > > > > > >So you consider "closeness" an important criteria for succession. > >That's interesting. > > > > > > > >Barring any other criteria mentioned, what would YOU go on? > > > > > >The traditional criteria, modified for the current political nature of > >the position. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >IMO Swami Karpatri, the "Shankaracharya maker", was the most qualified > >successor--but that is just my personal opinion based on what I know at > >a point removed considerably in time from the original events. > > > > > > > >Perhaps he was, but was he ever offered the position? He's apparently not > > mentioned in > >the will, nor in the article on the succession endorsed by Dana Sawyer. > >Was he a stuent of > >Gurudev's? Did the committee consider him in 1953 or later? How do you > >know? > > > > > >He was originally offered it BEFORE Sw. Brahmananda Saraswati originally > >since he was best suited. > > > >"Also, in 1953, Swami Hariharananda Saraswati (popularly known as > >Karapatri Swami), another disciple of Brahmananda Saraswati, was seen as > >the more deserving candidate to become the Sankaracharya, but he didn't > >want the title. In fact, as the head of the Akhila Bharatiya > >Dharmasangha, it is said that Hariharananda had been the first choice for > >the Sankaracharya post in 1941, but he had declined and proposed his > >guru's name (Brahmananda) instead. It is also said that it was > >Hariharananda who convinced his guru to accept the position. > >Hariharananda Saraswati passed away recently, and avoided the > >Sankaracharya title for himself, but the opinion of his followers is > >reflected in the title they have given him - Abhinava Sankara." -- The > >Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century > > > >I've also heard the above from independent sources. > > > > > >------ End of Forwarded Message > > > > > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
