--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "obbajeeba" <carc108@> wrote: > > > > > > Curious to know what people think here about Jyotish and the art of > > > telling of this subject. No one has to explain the subject that the sun > > > is up there, and the moon too and the other planets hovering about, being > > > on the inner and outer of life as the same, or the placements, etc. > > > Please do give any opinion or knowing of experiences with Jyotishi's. > > > Good or bad. > > > What about the delivery of the subject in these modern times? > > > Experiences from skeptics, knowers are appreciated on this subject. > > > Please tell, oh great one!......? > > > > > > > Jyotish is a very technical subject, although a good intuitive sense is > > needed to interpret the planetary positions, qualities and relationships. > > The fact that it's a technical subject doesn't mean there is > anything to it on a day-to-day useful level. In fact jyotish > is far more complex tahn it needs to be beacuse when the charts > were first formulted they didn't know the earth was round or > that it and the plantets went round the sun, in eliptical orbits. > The maths astrologers have to use to compensate for those > understandable errors is horrendous but to stop using it > is to admit that the earth isn;t the middle of the universe > and that if a field effect is responsible (which is what *is* proposed
Which volume of the Official Jyotish Docttrine is this in? :) In my reading of Jyotish material from various schools of thought (that is to say, there is NO ONE official jytotish doctrine) and not that I recall make a case for it being a "field effect" "designating or of an electronic component or device, esp. a transistor, controlled by an external electric field" That may be your hypothesis as to what the core of jyotish is and you are welcome to present your model. I suggest that jytotish is a system of mapping the general type and timing of events in ones life. (this may be attributed to "individual's karma" but karma is a loaded word and without precise definition is guaranteed to lead discussions astray. Is a field effect necessary to postulate the workings of a watch? Why so then with jyotish? As to whether jyotish has any power beyond random chance of identifying the type and timing of karma is certainly valid -- and there are no valid modern statistical studies on it so abundant skepticism is warranted. Personally, as a tool for general descriptions of type and timing of the unfoldment of events in my life -- it has more than not been uncanny -- though with a fair amount of noise surrounding the "signal". Not a proof -- but I don't have one for any of number of other things that "work" in my life. )the whole thing is wildly innacurate because of the > extra distances planets travel away from us as they orbit the sun. So your model and explanation of jyotish doesn't hold water. I might focus on your having the wrong model, than making wild claims about the inaacuracy of Jyotish bsimply ecause your personal model of jytish is flawed. > > If you look at your jyotish chart, you will notice they don't > take that into account, and indeed couldn't because the logarithms > they use are designed to move everything into a relationship with > a stationary earth that they don't have! > > And the predictably weird backwards and forward motions of planets > going "retrograde" is an illusion due to us appearing to overtake tham as we > move round the sun, they are going in the same direction > at the same speed they usually do! The idea that it means there effects are > reversed is revealed to be the nonsense that it is. And why is it nonesense? Again because in your personal unvalidated model , it doesn't make sense? Hardly a strong case against real world jyotish, though clearly a strong case agaisnt "figment of ones imagination" jytoish. :) > If there was any objective evidence that astrology worked none > of the above would matter but there isn't so why stick with it? Amongst other things, you appear to blur your straw dogs. Would a study of astrology (as in some perhaps on particular branch of western astrology) invalidate jyotish. And which school of jyotish. Does invalidating one invalidate all others? > > > Here's a good introduction to the subject if you're up to it: > > Up to what? It's a good grounding in astronomy but doesn't > explain any of the ideas about why anyone would think the > planets affect our everyday lives. > Again, who, besides what is happening inside your head, said that planets affect ones life? Yes, that does sound presposterous. But who said it? I can make parallel claims that the sun is making a clock tick. And then claim because that's preposterous, clockmaking is a foul preposterous scam. But then, if I did that, I wouldn't be making much sense, would I? > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxAZRvw2HxY&feature=PlayList&p=C871270CB37BE8A4&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20 > > > > JR > > >
