--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] > > > > You've had witnessing 24/7 for the past several years? > > > > > > I think "taste of witnessing" implies that it was neither 27/7 nor > > > for years. You seem fixated on witnessing as if it's some sort of > > > absolute benchmark of awakening. However, if you listen to what > > > awakened people have to say, you'll find that witnessing is not at > > > all the benchmark that the TMO makes it out to be. > > > > > > > A couple of issues: by what criteria do you consider someone > > to be awakened? > > As has been discussed, awakening is not something the intellect can > wrap itself around, so words will always fail. But, as I understand > it, the awakened person, on the level of awareness, identifies with > and as the non-localized infinite. Personally, I remain aware of only > separation; I am here, you are there. > > > and: what is there about permanent witnessing that is NOT a > > benchmark of some sort, enlightenment-wise? > > As Barry said, it's only a fraction. It's also a quality that can > come and go, even in the awakened.
Seems to me that one can't be "awakened" without witnessing. > > And, another thing just occurred to me: the other day, when I was > completely overshadowed by the irritation of having to dig through > baked clay in 100 degree heat, at the same time I was still not at > all overshadowed by the emotional, psycho-sexual wiring that had been > the cause of so much pain and suffering for decades. That wiring > remains exactly as it has always been, but when I put my attention on > it, the perception of it is detached and not involved. > > Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
