wtf? I ask you a question and all of a sudden you are the victim of spiritual 
one-upsmanship? I am curious how your def of self realization differs. What I 
meant when I asked about your SOC was that you have been in the Movement so you 
know what the milestones of CC, GC and UC are. Whether you accept Maharishi's 
definitions, self-realization has specific attributes. That's where I was going 
with it. Just as I don't read every word of yours, it is clear you don't read 
mine (which is nbd), otherwise you would know I have never played spiritual one 
upsmanship games here. The only folks that do are B and V. It is a huge time 
waster and distraction, imo. 

--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> 
> > Yes, we want to see your papers, Herr Curtis! There are some reported 
> > hoodlums and lower rogue elements masquerading as self-realized beings. We 
> > have orders to shoot these frauds on sight.
> > 
> > Remember Herr Curtis, you can't simply bask in the joy of your own 
> > existence. You must be certified to do so. And enjoying life without proper 
> > papers and titles, impossible!
> 
> Ya vol mein herr!
> 
> The first rule of spiritual one upmanship is that MY self-realization is the 
> right one, and yours is the wrong one. 
> 
> The second is, if you dont't use the authorized names to describe it that I 
> do,then your self realization is relative and superficial, and mine is 
> absolute and deep.
> 
> The third rule is never talk about fight club.  Wait a second, that is 
> supposed to be the first rule, sorry! 
> 
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> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Curtis, my responses below:
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you know what someone in CC, GC, or UC perceives, or doesn't? 
> > > > 
> > > > Same way I know what anyone does, by what they express. 
> > > > 
> > > > > Seems like you, Curtis and Vaj enjoy wasting your time speculating 
> > > > > about self realization, without any attempt to accomplish it 
> > > > > yourselves. 
> > > > 
> > > > I am self realized.
> > > 
> > > Which state of consciousness please (CC, GC, UC)? 
> > 
> > Yes, we want to see your papers, Herr Curtis! There are some reported 
> > hoodlums and lower rogue elements masquerading as self-realized beings. We 
> > have orders to shoot these frauds on sight.
> > 
> > Remember Herr Curtis, you can't simply bask in the joy of your own 
> > existence. You must be certified to do so. And enjoying life without proper 
> > papers and titles, impossible!
> 
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> > 
> > >If you are indeed self realized, this should be a gimme for you.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> >
>


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