--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > wtf? I ask you a question and all of a sudden you are the victim of spiritual > one-upsmanship?
<Snip> Hey Jim, It came on the heels of a pretty harsh post from you which said : <Seems like you, Curtis and Vaj enjoy wasting your time speculating about self realization, without any attempt to accomplish it yourselves.> > There is a whole heaping helping of one upmanship in that insult stream so I didn't know you had switched gears. I have a hard time taking your "WTF" seriously. I don't believe I have read you wrong. I am taking you are face value, you are claiming that you are in a special state of consciousness and I am not. I was also reading the snark in the line: >If you are indeed self realized, this should be a gimme for you.> That is not the start of a friendly discussion, it was a challenge. I don't feel as though you are being straight with me. This was in reaction to my own post which was not a personal attack on you, but was about ideas, and how mine differ from Maharishi's. I don't know why you feel compelled to make such discussions personal. You and I have had a very different relationship with the guy. I am entitled to my opinion without having to defend myself personally. My view of self realization is independent from any of the states produced through Maharishi's programs. But it certainly includes the ability to discuss ideas without having to insult the person who doesn't share your beliefs. That would be about the lowest bar required IMO. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > wtf? I ask you a question and all of a sudden you are the victim of spiritual > one-upsmanship? I am curious how your def of self realization differs. What I > meant when I asked about your SOC was that you have been in the Movement so > you know what the milestones of CC, GC and UC are. Whether you accept > Maharishi's definitions, self-realization has specific attributes. That's > where I was going with it. Just as I don't read every word of yours, it is > clear you don't read mine (which is nbd), otherwise you would know I have > never played spiritual one upsmanship games here. The only folks that do are > B and V. It is a huge time waster and distraction, imo. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, we want to see your papers, Herr Curtis! There are some reported > > > hoodlums and lower rogue elements masquerading as self-realized beings. > > > We have orders to shoot these frauds on sight. > > > > > > Remember Herr Curtis, you can't simply bask in the joy of your own > > > existence. You must be certified to do so. And enjoying life without > > > proper papers and titles, impossible! > > > > Ya vol mein herr! > > > > The first rule of spiritual one upmanship is that MY self-realization is > > the right one, and yours is the wrong one. > > > > The second is, if you dont't use the authorized names to describe it that I > > do,then your self realization is relative and superficial, and mine is > > absolute and deep. > > > > The third rule is never talk about fight club. Wait a second, that is > > supposed to be the first rule, sorry! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Curtis, my responses below: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know what someone in CC, GC, or UC perceives, or > > > > > > doesn't? > > > > > > > > > > Same way I know what anyone does, by what they express. > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like you, Curtis and Vaj enjoy wasting your time speculating > > > > > > about self realization, without any attempt to accomplish it > > > > > > yourselves. > > > > > > > > > > I am self realized. > > > > > > > > Which state of consciousness please (CC, GC, UC)? > > > > > > Yes, we want to see your papers, Herr Curtis! There are some reported > > > hoodlums and lower rogue elements masquerading as self-realized beings. > > > We have orders to shoot these frauds on sight. > > > > > > Remember Herr Curtis, you can't simply bask in the joy of your own > > > existence. You must be certified to do so. And enjoying life without > > > proper papers and titles, impossible! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If you are indeed self realized, this should be a gimme for you. > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > >
