--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson <ameradian2@...> wrote: > > Thank you so much for sharing with me what happened to you Ravi. I did not > know that you are using something other than TM. The only reason why I > practice TM is because having tried other meditations, TM, for better or > worse, seems to allow me to transcend in the quickest manner I have ever > experienced. It happened in the first day or two, and that was something I > can't say for any other form of meditation I tried, including classical > concentration (which I started when I was perhaps 12 years old following the > guidelines in a book by Richard Hittleman on Yoga), or vipanassana, or > meditating on my breath while using a simple form of pranayama. For me TM is > simply an expedient tool-- I have no desire to reach GC or UG and right now > I'm just trying to figure out if I should even allowed to go so far as CC > 24/7.  Frankly this entire notion of having so-called Cosmic Consciousness, > this awareness of a silent inner level, during sleep is something that > concerns me. I wonder if it will make sleep far more difficult. And I also > worry about what I just read concerning what seems to be long-lasting, if not > permanent changes to either neurophysiology or even neuroanatomy. Btw, what > form of meditation were you practicing? And also, I love the comment by your > Guru. That was a very perceptive comment!!  > Cheers > Bill > > > From: Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?) > > >  > Dear Bill, > > Not being familiar with TM, I can just share my experiences. > > In my experience not being aware during deep sleep state doesn't seem to > hinder bliss and perfect awareness during the wakeful state. Most of the > times I sleep like a log, if I'm too high I might feel like I'm aware of my > sleep state but this happens rarely. > > However during a period of 3 months in 09 & 10, during this period that I > refer to as the descension of divine I hardly slept and had full awareness > even while asleep. But I believe this to be a side effect of the body trying > to cope with energy than any natural state. My body treated this energy as an > invasion and felt the need to be awake 24 hours a day to deal with this. > > So based on my experience it was just an interim state, after having > integrated the energy and rising up higher in consciousness, so to speak I > just sleep. > > TM is a path like many others, like my Guru would say once you reach the > shore you leave the boat behind, you wouldn't carry it on your head. >
For me the further shore occasionally seems closer than at other times, but invariably a cleansing flood washes the boat back down stream, and the further shore seems at least as far away as ever, if not more. IOW, I haven't found an opportunity to carry the boat around on my head for any appreciable length of time, at least. To paraphrase MMY: as long as you have thoughts during meditation, you can still benefit from meditation... L.
