Thank you for this great advice. I'm glad to hear that pics aren't the way to
go - seems to promote discrimination to some degree. I agree with the "down on
flashy" advice, but simple, clean structure is always appreciated - hence the
nudge to Mark on that. In my business...it was a requirement.
Its good practice to have lunch with other professional friends and practice
how to network. I went to a class once called "marketing for engineers"...not
always a primary skill of these types of thinkers, but good to practice. And,
everyone I know who has gotten a job of late, hasn't gotten it by sending out
resumes, but through the grace of a contact that knew they could do the job, as
you mentioned.
--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:28 AM
Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have my
two bits too. Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more
than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume." It really tell me
anything as to whether they could do the job or not. One of my best
hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long
and mainly just a dump of everything he had done. If HR had done
filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can. But he came
in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were
looking for.
A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's
age NO PICTURE. In fact hide age as much as possible. This is
especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age. Put the
degrees earned in but no dates. Also limit the employment trail to a
decade or so. Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an
interview.
On networking, some people can do it and do it well. But others can
not.. But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job. There
are "people people" and there are "things people." For some jobs you
may definitely need a people person but for others like computer
programming it isn't so important.
Some people interview well and others don't. You can easily wind up
with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job.
Right now the employment scene is just plain silly. Even back in the
day we were warned about "gaps in employment". But if I had to apply
for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview. The
reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor for the
company and they knew my work. So the interview consisted of "you want
the job" and "when can you start?" I interviewed people who took some
time out to learn new things. I found that a good sign. HR often had
lame ideas anyway. This article sums up the issue and do read the
comments. They will tell you more about the job scene than the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-long-term-jobless.html
I've been saying for years that putting well educated and experienced
people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe for
revolution.
On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
> Hi Mark:
> Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :) I have a friend who's a
> VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my resume...
> 1) Use an up-to-date format and font....I would block yours a bit differently
> and add a few "rules/lines" to give it better structure, and maybe update the
> header font.
> 2)Add a picture - Are you averse to putting your picture in the left hand
> corner?...I've been resisting this because I don't photograph well, but I am
> told this is becoming standard practice in many companies...they want to see
> what you look like first :)
> 3) If you can hit the high points in a well designed resume in one page -
> that's ideal. Not sure you need all that on the back end quite that far back
> - could consolidate it into 3 bullets under a single category maybe.
> Don't take this wrong...I did a lot of proposals and resume's in my line of
> work, so I edit by nature.
> I'm in a design class right now....it's all about being bold and creative in
> the sell.
> I have about 6 versions of resumes.
> Network, network....I got two interviews out of past contacts before I
> decided to go to school and take the summer off...I've been too beat to do
> much of anything.
> Unemployment has been good to me...able to get some time off with the kids in
> for the first time in many, many, a year. Gluten-free is treating me well.
> Dropped 15 pounds and stabilized at just 10 too high. Things are lookin up!
>
> --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Mark Landau<m...@sky5.com> wrote:
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> From: Mark Landau<m...@sky5.com>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:18 PM
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