Thanks to both of you to help others reading this thread! These tips will help me a lot too! I am grateful. : ) Thanks to Mark for being bold enough to post a resume'. The world is a good place!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans <dmevans365@...> wrote: > > Thank you for this great advice. Â I'm glad to hear that pics aren't the way > to go - seems to promote discrimination to some degree. Â I agree with the > "down on flashy" advice, but simple, clean structure is always appreciated - > hence the nudge to Mark on that. Â In my business...it was a requirement. > Its good practice to have lunch with other professional friends and practice > how to network. Â I went to a class once called "marketing for > engineers"...not always a primary skill of these types of thinkers, but good > to practice. Â And, everyone I know who has gotten a job of late, hasn't > gotten it by sending out resumes, but through the grace of a contact that > knew they could do the job, as you mentioned. > > --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote: > > From: Bhairitu <noozguru@...> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:28 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have > my > > two bits too. Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more > > than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume." It really tell me > > anything as to whether they could do the job or not. One of my best > > hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long > > and mainly just a dump of everything he had done. If HR had done > > filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can. But he came > > in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were > > looking for. > > > > A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's > > age NO PICTURE. In fact hide age as much as possible. This is > > especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age. Put the > > degrees earned in but no dates. Also limit the employment trail to a > > decade or so. Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an > > interview. > > > > On networking, some people can do it and do it well. But others can > > not.. But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job. There > > are "people people" and there are "things people." For some jobs you > > may definitely need a people person but for others like computer > > programming it isn't so important. > > > > Some people interview well and others don't. You can easily wind up > > with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job. > > > > Right now the employment scene is just plain silly. Even back in the > > day we were warned about "gaps in employment". But if I had to apply > > for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview. The > > reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor for the > > company and they knew my work. So the interview consisted of "you want > > the job" and "when can you start?" I interviewed people who took some > > time out to learn new things. I found that a good sign. HR often had > > lame ideas anyway. This article sums up the issue and do read the > > comments. They will tell you more about the job scene than the article: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-long-term-jobless.html > > > > I've been saying for years that putting well educated and experienced > > people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe for > > revolution. > > > > On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote: > > > Hi Mark: > > > Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :) I have a friend who's > > a VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my resume... > > > 1) Use an up-to-date format and font....I would block yours a bit > > differently and add a few "rules/lines" to give it better structure, and > > maybe update the header font. > > > 2)Add a picture - Are you averse to putting your picture in the left hand > > corner?...I've been resisting this because I don't photograph well, but I > > am told this is becoming standard practice in many companies...they want to > > see what you look like first :) > > > 3) If you can hit the high points in a well designed resume in one page - > > that's ideal. Not sure you need all that on the back end quite that far > > back - could consolidate it into 3 bullets under a single category maybe. > > > Don't take this wrong...I did a lot of proposals and resume's in my line of > > work, so I edit by nature. > > > I'm in a design class right now....it's all about being bold and creative > > in the sell. > > > I have about 6 versions of resumes. > > > Network, network....I got two interviews out of past contacts before I > > decided to go to school and take the summer off...I've been too beat to do > > much of anything. > > > Unemployment has been good to me...able to get some time off with the kids > > in for the first time in many, many, a year. Gluten-free is treating me > > well. Dropped 15 pounds and stabilized at just 10 too high. Things are > > lookin up! > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Mark Landau<m...@sky5.com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Mark Landau<m...@sky5.com> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought > > I'd let you know. > > > > > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting firm > > in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things. > > > > > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site. > > > > > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my > > skills, please let me know. The link is: > > > > > > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html > > > > > > Many thanks, m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
