--- All (well almost all), of the land we live on in the United 
States, was seized from the Native Americans...

The re-establishment of Israel in 1948, was a manifestation, of the 
holocaust in Nazi Germany, and the outpouring of sympathy for the 
Jewish people, and the need for a homeland for the Jewish people in 
a land that had witnessed the first holocaust by the Roman's in 
around 70 AD. as well as the persecution of the early Christians who 
were almost all Jews, and the adoption and Romanization of Jesus' 
teachings. Look at the Vatican in Rome, and you will see more of 
Rome, and not much what Jesus taught or stood for.
 
Because of the attitude of the Arabs of that area that Israel has 
no "right to exist" propagates the same response, karmatically. 
Tragically, the Arab people use the Palestinians as a scapegoat, for 
their cause, of intolerance for anything that's not Islamic.
The Palestinians, were never liked by the rest of the Arab world, 
and were regarded as to western and educated, kind of like the 
attitude people from the Midwest have for people of New York.

We can see how the Arab countries, take care of their own.
With unimaginable wealth from oil revenues, we see the most extreme 
poverty, in the Islamic countries, to the point that they would 
rather commit suicide against the Jews, or the Americans, or the 
British, instead of looking at the root of their issue, which is 
based in dogma, scapegoating, and greed. 

The real problem in the Islamic world is the greed of their 
leader's, who can't seem to satisfy their insatiable desire, for 
money, subjugation of women, and illicit sex, as well as their 
medieval methods of torture and execution.

They are a sad bunch, and hopefully will go the same way as the 
Indians; though the Native Americans really had a beautiful culture, 
that did not depend on worshipping gold, and the like; and did not 
deserve the fate that was dealt them.




In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > See for yourself link below: 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/betar1059307697.php
> > > 
> > > I understand your point, but geopolitical boundaries and 
entities 
> > > change all the time. What about North and South Vietnam, North 
and 
> > > South Korea, Taiwan, Surinam, and most of the African 
countries?
> > > 
> > > Many of them existed in the past but not now, and others exist 
> now, 
> > > but not then, with a lack of distiguishable cultures.
> > 
> > Right, so why can't Israel exist peacefully in 'Palestine'?
> 
> Beats me, though I don't think the 'we were here first' argument 
works 
> well. 
> 
> Probably because the Israeli state was created by the British from 
> seized Arab land in the late 40's, in order to weaken the Arab 
> nationalist movement. No one ever goes for that stuff, and there 
has 
> been war there ever since.




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