--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:40 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> > Same question, then: where and how is the experience of not being
> > enlightened felt in the physiology?
> 
> It's felt by a feeler. Therefore it's dualistic. What is felt? 
Perhaps 
> a sense of dis-ease, perhaps tension, maybe anxiety or neurosis. 
There 
> are many different experiencers capable of experiencing. There are 
> therefore as many answers are there are styles of dis-ease and 
> separation.
> 
> Not everyone experiences the enlightened state as 
> sensation-riding-on-emptiness so it is a rather limited "idea".
> 
> The idea that physiology is important is IMO merely a style of 
> conditioning common in TM circles. You were taught that this was 
> important. And of course it sounds cool to say. The question I 
> naturally would want to ask is 'why are you accepting that 
conditioning 
> (that physiology is relevant  re: "enlightenment") as important?
> 
> How are you defining "physiology" as an idea?
> 
> The physiology and enlightenment story is a popular TMO drama.

You are assuming that I have asked the question merely to play out a 
drama that I am conditioned to play out, with no purpose other than 
reinforcing a story that my small self finds important. That would 
be an impractical thing to do, without any purpose whatsoever, in my 
opinion. 

Rather, the reason that I posed the question was because of my 
personal belief based on experience, that if the idea or experience  
of being unawakened can be identified and *localized* within the 
physical body's physiology, it can be dealt with, and eliminated, if 
one so chooses.

So my only purpose for bringing this up was to begin to share a 
method of uncovering the Self that I believe applies to anyone. It 
does make the assumption that we use the physical body as a vehicle 
for our development.

How do you understand the process of awakening, and how does it 
avoid any connection to the purification of the body's physiology?




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