--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > You know Edg it is rare that I can find some topic that would lead me into a > pro-censorish post. What an opportunity for something "new" for my calcified > brain. > > From a casual lurker perspective, I was tempted to weigh in for the Ravi Alex > gay bash video. I felt the intention was off my scale of acceptable. Ravi > may have used his abrasiveness to bash someone for some higher purpose known > only to himself in the past, but I sensed a shift toward using people as > emotional punching bags in a way I do not appreciate. Alex handled it all > with his usual aplaumb (first time word use and it wont be the last baby!) so > I figured WTF, no reason to draw the inevitable unpleasant fire my way since > I am not in posting mode these days. > > But then the Raunchy tirade came out, and despite her obviously ample > aplaumbs (Still working out some of the kinks on using this word...) and her > ability to defend herself, it again caught my eye as over my personal line. > There was a different kind of demeaning harshness that I don't like. >
I don't like it either, Curtis. I don't generally engage in such rank personal attacks. I agree it stinks up the place. Maybe if I were enlightened, I wouldn't have a hint of conscience about it. I would simply disown responsibility for my actions and claim, as Ravi does, "the existence made me do it." By the way, nice to see you back. > I would not shed a Gandhian tear if Rick decided that this is not what FFL is > about and liberated Ravi to find a forum that valued his level of > "enlightened" FU wisdom with no limits. (I put enlightened in quotes just to > make sure that everyone knew that I revere his state as the true > "enlightened" one that we should all respect as the toppermost of the > poppermost in enlightenmentintudealistic splendor. I may be skeptical of many > things concerning spirituality, but I am very, very confident that if there > is a highest state of human development, this is what it would look and sound > like. Really. Seriously. I mean it. Oh hell, I tried to keep that > together and now I have 1%, grass-fed, no antibiotics, milk all over my > keyboard!) > > So there you have it. I don't support any version of going after gay people > for being gay with intent to demean, and I don't support a post, to women > especially but for anyone really, that involves that style of repeated > references to the one-eyed pirate crossing the reef of teeth only to walk the > uvula plank to plunge into the bay of the deep throat with the intent I felt > from that post. It had more of a prison sex vibe to me and turns FFL into the > written equivalent of video chat roulette.Too much men's junk in your face.) > > Maybe just speaking up is all that is needed for a correction to be made and > more drastic action is not needed. But I am glad this line was drawn and > support it. > > It is likely that this position will draw a rash of "but so and so says worse > things and you don't say anything." I am afraid those responses will fall on > deaf semi-lurking ears. Sorry in advance for not caring about anyone else's > line drawing preferences. If this post is seen as a version of hypocrisy when > compared to other things I have said about free speech here, I will be more > sympathetic since I am not sure how I feel about it all myself at this point. > Work in progress. > > I believe in the freedom of using sexual material here in the form of > celebrating that physical love between two consenting adults is one of the > most beautiful, precious, wonderful, heart-healing, life-affirming, actual > miracles... > > that money can buy. > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Yeah, let's everyone get on Ravi. > > > > Let's all feel good about bashing someone for using swear words> > > > > But oh god, ain't no one better be expecting Rick to threaten to toss out > > the a war monger has been vilely defending his Texas racism here - unlike > > Ravi, that bastard is a truly EVIL FUCKWAD who calls for a no-rights-class > > of citizenry for anyone who isn't a white male racist. > > > > And every person who reads these words knows about whom I am writing if > > they've even read three days' worth of FFL posts. > > > > Edg > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Seventh here. Obscene rants such as we have recently seen > > > should simply be deleted by the moderator, without fuss. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Look, I'm rushing here, but a couple things. > > > > IIRC, Ravi at one point, once he realized Sal was a "she", and not a > > > > "he", said he felt he should show a little more decorum. I realize I > > > > may get pegged as a sexist, but I'm just telling you what he said. > > > > So, if someone is on record with saying something like that, and then > > > > goes into a profane tirade, against a female he feels insulted him, or > > > > his beloved, then I call that being a hypocrite. Of course Ravi has a > > > > long history of abiding by rules he holds as sacred one day, and then > > > > breaking them the next. That's part of being enlightened, of course. > > > > Second, we are a public forum. Even though in the past, I've said I'm > > > > not a prude, I guess I am a little. And, blast me if you will Bob, but > > > > I'm thinking of some of the casual readers to FFL, and I include my > > > > wife in this, (although I think it is rare that she might read it). > > > > Yea, I might have felt a little embarrassed by Ravi's BJ tirade. > > > > But since I had voiced an objection earlier, and no one else chimed in, > > > > I assumed no one else had a problem with it. And that was okay with me. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have to agree with Bob and Ravi. > > > > > > > > > > I would think the film, "David Wants to Fly," is offensive to some. Do > > > > the posts get blocked for that? > > > > > > > > > > Or Mark Landau's having mentioned Maharishi's Sandals? > > > > > > > > > > Or the Indian jokes that appear funny to many, but are they Indian to > > > > speak about if they are funny or not? > > > > > > > > > > Polish jokes? > > > > > > > > > > What if a joke were Jewish orientated? > > > > > > > > > > Gay jokes? > > > > > > > > > > Saint jokes? > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi jokes? > > > > > > > > > > Turq's obsession with mammary glands? > > > > > > > > > > The cultural understanding of what Ravi refers to from learning > > > > English from his native tongue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooster > > > > > would be a bit more defined than slang on the streets in America. > > > > > Another word, Ravi may see a bit different than an American > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck > > > > > > > > > > What I am trying to say is Ravi most likely did not get put in the > > > > corner at an American public school from American public schooled > > > > parents and the shame and disgrace associated with the two wikipedia > > > > defined words are not in his realm of embarrassed understanding. > > > > > > > > > > There are many creative ways to jump on Ravi if one is offended by him > > > > and without the use of what he may refer to in words, where is the > > > > creativity to those who challenge him? Come on, he most likely has not > > > > followed years of Monty Python of British humor and of course American > > > > born Terry Gilliam, to formulate a way to really piss off people without > > > > the use of a language he was not schooled in his upbringing to ignore. > > > > > > > > > > I think the only reason Ravi is being picked on, is he wins in > > > > argument, along with using the words defined by American culture as > > > > vulgar, so the usual would be to attack from what one was slapped on the > > > > hands for saying as a child, the American culture shock terms. > > > > > > > > > > Here, Ravi, watch this film and learn the way to insult from a western > > > > level of intellect that insults no one > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8_jgiNqUc > > > > > > > > > > ps. I like Ravi's posts of Shiva Lingam! We need to find one with a > > > > youtube puja. Close the eyes for the sensitive. Better yet, if one is > > > > blind, we could let the proper experience to braille the touch? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDkoCtMOFOg&feature=related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like you hit the hypocrisy jackpot; guess it was just a matter > > > > of time with such fertile fields, and a yogi that refuses to shoot > > > > blanks. Just wondering whether Rick was reminding us that FFL has > > > > standards, or, that he has standards---and, of course, we're playing at > > > > *his* house, and him and the rest of the liberals will totally miss the > > > > point tripping over themselves showing us how liberal they are. I have > > > > $1.59 that says this will be the post that the naked emperor (another > > > > liberal) decides is his road to reconstruction (not the one with a pick > > > > on his finger; the one with his finger stuck somewhere besides a dyke). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Rick Archer rick@ > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 8:52:35 PM > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey Ravi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297571 > > > > > > > > > > > > Clean it up a bit or your outta here. Iâm serious. > > > > > > Â Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
