--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ah, but if God is well read, and has delved into the
> > > > > > > Heisenberg Principle, He'd know that to observe is to
> > > > > > > influence, so out of fairness He wouldn't be 
> watching.  :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ah, but if S/H/We weren't watching, nothing would 
happen :-
> )
> > > > > 
> > > > > How do you know...
> > > > 
> > > > Because when there is no watcher/watchee, nothing happens :-)
> > > 
> > > But how would you know?
> > 
> > Self-evident ...
> 
> Stepping outside the three gunas -- so that Self (observer) and 
All-
> that-is are (observed) not different -- is analogous to looking at 
> the torus from outside, and seeing Vishnu coalesce from the outer 
> shell into the base of the inner double-cone (as Sattva); Brahma 
> rotate as the singularity at the center of the double-cone (as 
> Rajas); and Shiva disperse at the top of the double-cone outwards 
> into the outer shell (as Tamas) -- and yet, because one is no 
longer 
> involved in the 
> movie(s) within this Brahman-torus, nothing actually happens; the 
> whole thing is in stasis. 
> 
> This might be akin to the Work of Byron Katie, wherein when we 
> inquire into the stories of our suffering, we may realize that we 
> have been projecting all of it -- resolving it back into the 
radiant 
> clarity and loving fullness of our own emptiful not-happening  :-)

So why does Vishnu blend with Brahma, and Brahma blend with Shiva, 
but Shiva and Vishnu are absolutely distinct from one another? 

In other words, what does that transition on the outside of the 
torus, between the ultimate decay of Shiva, and the growing 
pregnancy of Vishnu look like or represent? it appears to be a gap 
of undifferentiated potential; Absolute stillness. No gunas.

Or is there something there?





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