> > > >
> > > > Xeno, the model of Bevan as the supreme TM leader to follow is
> > > > different than Hagelin's. The general on the Western Front of the
> > > > British army at the Somme who then again followed after the Somme at
> > > > Ypres is the better example of Bevan. The commonwealth general was
> > > > committed to massive infantry frontal assault against the machine gun
> > > > and other modern weaponry well past the time when it had been well
> > > > proven obsolete. That guy was pig-headed as a character trait. He had
> > > > all the credentials to leadership and was certainly supremely confident
> > > > in himself, so much so that he could not see any problem with his play
> > > > book or reason to change or do something otherwise. It was only a
> > > > matter of will to carry the infantry assault to the breakthrough! On
> > > > the opening day of the Somme the Brits took 20,000 casualties. Within
> > > > weeks it was 400,000. The flower of Greater Britain. He had all the
> > > > credentials and that way of confidence about him. After the Somme he
> > > > went on and did it again at Ypres with another 250,000 casualties. He
> > > > got brought home as the unassailable 'hero of the Somme'. Little
> > > > ground, heavy casualties. The numbers tell the story of Field Marshal
> > > > Sir Douglas Haig sort of like the tenure of our university President
> > > > with the movement's Dome numbers. Like Haig our guy has certainly been
> > > > resolute to a fault.
> > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > > ,snip,
> > > B.H. Liddell-Hart, a distinguished military historian who had been
> > > wounded on the Western Front, went from admirer to skeptic to unremitting
> > > critic. He wrote in his diary:
> > > He [Haig] was a man of supreme egoism and utter lack of scruple--who, to
> > > his overweening ambition, sacrificed hundreds of thousands of men. A man
> > > who betrayed even his most devoted assistants as well as the Government
> > > which he served. A man who gained his ends by trickery of a kind that was
> > > not merely immoral but criminal.
> > >
> > > Om Shanti, It reads so Om similarly!
> > >
> >
> > A Flaw of excess in Any one Virtue-
> > "This is the key to Haig's failure as a general. Every virtue becomes a
> > flaw when pushed to excess. Daring becomes impetuosity. Prudence becomes
> > irresolution. Will and resolution become stubbornness and pigheadedness.
> > Haig evidently believed that will and resolve could carry any obstacle."
> > [excerpts:]
> > The indictment against Haig and his "pigheaded" insistence of fighting
> > Third Ypres at a cost of more than 250,000 British casualties is not simply
> > one of losses, though that would be enough. What secures Third Ypres'
> > status as one of history's great military blunders is the fact that while
> > Haig thought it was a victory, the battle very nearly lost the war for the
> > Allies.
> >
> > Churchill dryly points out, "hopes of decisive victoryÂ…grew With every step
> > away from the British front line and reached absolute conviction in the
> > Intelligence Department."
> >
> > If there was deep mistrust between civilian and military leadership, Haig
> > was to blame for it. Swathed in sublime self-confidence, he always promised
> > great success and, as events unfolded, changed the definition of success.
> > So he felt contempt for the politicians, and they for him. The politicians
> > were in the right but didn't have the courage to act on their convictions
> > and simply fire Haig. The compromise--letting him keep his command but
> > denying him the reserves he needed--was the worst of many bad alternatives.
> >
> > Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig became the youngest major general in the
> > army in 1904. At the outbreak of World War I, Haig helped organize the
> > British Expeditionary Force, then took command of it."
> >
> > A similar course to a young Bevan coming in to position by Maharishi in the
> > 1970's as the equivalent of a TM Movement's Field Marshal from then
> > supplanting others. Haig is a tremendously interesting example of the
> > 'deceived' and 'failed' in so costly leadership emerging with laurels. In
> > numbers and costs in war that were spectacular in a way similar like the
> > decline of TM in the Bevan years. So it is and ere we are with Bevan the
> > Prime Minister now the right hand of our TM King resolute to the end.
> >
> >
>
> "In Churchill's devastating judgment, Haig "wore down alike the manhood and
> the guns of the British army almost to destruction." Keegan is also
> merciless: "On the Somme, [Haig] had sent the flower of British youth to
> death or mutilation; at Passchendaele he had tipped the survivors in the
> slough of despond."
> "Of the final assault that carried the ruined, pointless little village of
> Passchendaele, British military historian J.F.C. Fuller, wrote, "To persistÂ…
> in this tactically impossible battle was an inexcusable piece of pigheadness
> on the part of Haig." This is the key to Haig's failure as a general. Every
> virtue becomes a flaw when pushed to excess. Daring becomes impetuosity.
> Prudence becomes irresolution. Will and resolution become stubbornness and
> pigheadedness. Haig evidently believed that will and resolve could carry any
> obstacle. Even mud and machine guns."
>
> Third Ypres was the hellish battle that gave rise to the story of Haig's
> chief of staff being driven to the front and, as he viewed the muddy
> wasteland, breaking into tears and saying, "Good God, did we really send men
> to fight in that?"
> "It gets worse," his driver said, "farther on up."
>
> Excerpts from Author:Norman, Geoffrey
> Source:Military History, Jun2008, Vol. 24 Issue 4, p34-41, 8p
> >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> > > > <anartaxius@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Authfriend and Rick Archer are right here about Hagelin. Hagelin
> > > > > > is in it for the long haul and a tantamount leader of meditators
> > > > > > everywhere. He is larger than life and among us. He is extremely
> > > > > > sharp witted, funny, he listens, is methodical, and does not suffer
> > > > > > fools. He has been incredibly productive in re-mapping the
> > > > > > teaching movement strategically from even before Maharishi died.
> > > > > > You guys who are not here do not see him but he walks among us and
> > > > > > is our wise and careful leader in this. He is not in a position to
> > > > > > rule by decree as there is a junta to bring along including Bevan
> > > > > > and some other Rajas of varying merit. Hagelin is a leader in a
> > > > > > way Bevan will probably never be of the larger meditating movement
> > > > > > because Bevan carries the weight of so much bad in his wake. It is
> > > > > > just the way it is and Bevan has earned his own merit in this.
> > > > > > Hagelin is interesting because he has emerged with his reputation
> > > > > > in tact. Part figurehead but in action it is Hagelin more than
> > > > > > anyone else who has resuscitated and kept the old TM teaching
> > > > > > movement in tact and put it on the move again. He demonstrates a
> > > > > > kind of endurance that he also demands of his people with him.
> > > > > > Here at home or on the trail he is present, visible to us, and
> > > > > > tireless. This is the guy who is in fact rallying things,
> > > > > > skillfully directing battle, and looked to. This is not Bevan hold
> > > > > > up in some mansion. Hagelin is a guy who commands respect by not
> > > > > > demanding it. And look at the people around him likewise. He
> > > > > > grants a same direct access from all grades and makes his
> > > > > > decisions. Tireless yet by his willing sharing the general lot of
> > > > > > his people Hagelin engenders admiration as well as loyalty. He
> > > > > > obviously enjoys being alongside in the old meditating community
> > > > > > with good barbs and dialect. However in the work of the movement
> > > > > > he certainly imposes authority as if the Unified Field itself had
> > > > > > descended to earth in the form of this common meditator and
> > > > > > physicist.
> > > > > > I swear my allegiance,
> > > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been enjoying your reports Buck. John's speaking style I have
> > > > > always found lackluster, kind of sing-song. He is a really bright
> > > > > guy. I am not so familiar with what he does with the Fairfield
> > > > > community now. I did know him a little bit, long ago, and remember
> > > > > mostly the fiery Margaret fuming over him while he mostly ignored her
> > > > > as he typed away on a computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think some acting lessons might help his speaking image.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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