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> --- In [email protected], "luvgemlight" wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], "card" wrote:
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> > > --- In [email protected], "luvgemlight" wrote:
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> > > > Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments
> > > > here in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either
> > > > twice or four times each month since my first treatment last march in
> > > > 2012, I can safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality
> > > > for improving consciousness and creativity, and the "light beamers" are
> > > > laser penlights -- thus, the light passing through these gems is very
> > > > coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a
> > > > ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini awakening later on
> > > > after that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice
> > > > that I'm transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer
> > > > this from the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally
> > > > transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my
> > > > Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so
> > > > that care and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action
> > > > is a very good idea since they can materialize.
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante wrote:
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> > > > > On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
> > > > > Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
> > > > > Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
> > > > > source of gems,
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> > > Well, the compound word is
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> > > ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
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> > > ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing
> > > riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches)
> > > RV. AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
> > >
> > > According to Macdonell's comment:
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> > > ...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
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> > > agnim iiLe purohitaM
> > > yajñasya devam RtvijaM
> > > hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.
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> > If the cornucopia of wealth comes from agni, then possibly agni is more
> > than merely 'fire'? Consider this interpretation....
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> > From the 1974 MIU Course Catalog, Maharishi explains 'agnim' phoneme by
> > phoneme as it accumulates meaning sequentially from the first sound...
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> > a = fullness.
> > g = puts a stop to fullness.
> > n = negates the stop of fullness.
> > i = progresses this negation of fullness' stop.
> > m = maintains this whole thing, on and on and on, like a continuous hum.
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> > Now, let's apply this sequential rendering as a five-step template of sorts
> > straight from the TM technique...
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> > a = "least action is achieved": the field of the transcendent (even the
> > sage, Milarepa, discerns the fullness of the "transcendental field" as the
> > field of least action).
> > g = "through alternation between": alternating phases are preceded by a
> > stop to the previous phase before starting the next phase.
> > n = "rest" (the negation of the relative's natural state of continuous
> > activity)
> > i = "and activity" (activity always breeds progressive growth)
> > m = "maintained as a daily/etc routine" (how else can anything be
> > maintained, but as a sequence of cyclic phases?)
> >
> > Sum total -
> > "Least action is achieved through alternation between rest and activity
> > maintained in regular cycles."
> >
> > So, TM (yogic union with agni) achieves wealth (samadhi/agni) through agni
> > (the five-step template described above). Kind of like saying: the course
> > of life is "from here to here" through here as well.
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> > But of course, we already know that Maharishi uses the term 'TM' since
> > westerners have a strange predilection for believing that yoga means merely
> > postures. So, he couldn't use the more obvious term of 'yoga'. Yet,
> > "yogasta kuru karmani" = "established in Being, perform action", one of the
> > two mottos of this movement (the other is, "nistraigunyo bhavarjun" =
> > transcend) really means established in yoga, doesn't it? Kind of gives away
> > what TM is all about.....yoga.
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> > > gems are described in the Vedas as the "Radiance of
> > > > > God" -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only
> > > > > to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some
> > > > > sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst,
> > > > > emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
> > > > > type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light
> > > > > is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper
> > > > > articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even
> > > > > though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people
> > > > > are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness,
> > > > > healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to
> > > > > date. The light is supposed to act on the "light body" of the
> > > > > recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's
> > > > > basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more
> > > > > than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill
> > > > > the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80%
> > > > > of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems
> > > > > are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA.
> > > > >
> > > > > "There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light
> > > > > outside."
> > > > >
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> Thank the god of fire that re-enforcements of more revolutionary millenarians
> have finally spoke up up on this list. Welcome LuvGemLight to the fray. You
> got through to us. You are on the front line here out-numbered with only a
> few of us by your side. There's quite a few non-meditators and
> counter-revolutionaries lie-ing in wait to bush-whack meditators who come out
> here. It's a terrible place to stand up. I am glad you are up here with
> us. It often takes fire to fight fire. And water. What did Maharishi say
> about water in relation to Agni fire? You know, as a cannoneer to fire a
> cannon you have to ram swab the barrel with a wet mop before you load the
> charge or the powder charge might spark off and go BOOM as you load it. In a
> fight many a cannoneer lost their fingers and hands ramming loads if they ran
> out of water in their swab bucket and came to be without swab water on the
> battlefield of llife. Water, does water have something elemental to do with
> Gem Light Therapy? The role of water in chakras and Gem Therapy? Did
> Maharishi ever talk about this? You seem to be deep with this. I appreciate
> that.
> -Buck
>
I don't know. But if I were to track down the symbolism, I'd start with close
analogs to the water symbol, such as "ocean of bliss". Maharishi definitely has
something to say on bliss...
http://www.detlef108.de/Maharishi-Sat-Chit-Ananda-mp3.m3u
shortcut...
http://www.tinyurl.com/mmy-ananda
Edgar Cayce spoke of only four elements being required and everything else the
body needed was made from these four irregardless of anyone else's advice to
the contrary. These four elements are: water, salt, soda, and iodine.
Attempting to apply the agnim template could result in...
a = water
g = salt
n = soda
i = iodine
...which might seem to work, but leaves out the 'm' phoneme. Let's take a
different approach...
Ishwara is the personal supreme almighty diety whose impersonal essential
nature is purusha, or being.
Dharma is an actual diety second only to Ishwara. Dharma's impersonal essential
nature could be described as 'kama' = desire, but a more factual description
might be 'smriti' = memory, which Nada Ram described recently -- during
Maharishi's birthday 2013 celebration -- as having a secondary meaning besides
memory: fulfillment of desire. So, Dharma is Smriti; regaining my memory (an
Arjuna quote of the last line of the Bhagavad Gita) is also regaining my Dharma
(my support of the power of Almighty Nature; or, how else shall I fulfill my
desire?).
Well, Dharma is positioned, not within the relative, but within the gap between
the Almighty and the relative. This is what makes Dharma second only to the
Almighty and superior to everything else within the relative, such as all the
other dieties, including, but not limited to...
Brahma, whose impersonal essential nature is: satwa
Vishnu, whose impersonal essential nature is: rajas
Shiva, whose impersonal essential nature is: tamas
Ganesh, whose impersonal essential nature is: vata
Mother Divine, whose impersonal essential nature is: kapha
Surya, whose impersonal essential nature is: pitta
....if I've got my six primary dieties of the relative field right (along with
their six impersonal essential natures)?
So, Dharma is superior to the three gunas and the three doshas which lie
between the three gunas along with their respective personal dieties (Brahma,
Vishnu, and Shiva, plus Ganesh, Mother Divine, and Surya) and Smriti is
superior to Prakriti (the field of the three gunas).
Well, this gap wherein lies Dharma and Smriti tugs in both directions: it tugs
on the relative to transcend the relative and go to Being, and it tugs on the
Absolute to come out of itself and manifest itself into the relative. A better
template to include the gap (better than the Edgar Cayce quote from above)
might be...
a = Ishwara/purusha
g = Dharma/smriti
n = Shiva/tamas
i = Brahma/sattwa
m = Vishnu/rajas
