In my case when I left MIU in 1987, I had no real desire to be removed from the Movement, intended to go on rounding courses and yet had just before leaving MIU, about 3 months before, I had been introduced other kinds of spiritual practices, reiki and healing stuff so when I came back to South Carolina I started meeting people who were into other stuff than TM and I was interested, so dabbled around with it.
Quite by accident or perhaps by Cosmic Design, I became aware of some things that disturbed me a fair amount with the behavior of Bevan and other members of the TMO who were creating some shenanigans in Heavenly Mountain - it was really the Boone, NC stuff that made me decide not to have anything to do with the TMO except maybe round sometime, and then in 1996 a woman I was friends with who also became a certified meditation teacher with Deepak Chopra thru his CHopra center in La Jolla, and I learned another mantra meditation The experiences I had made me feel "Hey! Marshy might have got it wrong - TM ain't necessarily the best meditation out there!" So my attention was just not on TM at all for a number of years except every now and again when I would talk to one of my friends who was a TB'er and they would tell me the latest spate of rumors about how many people were hovering and how close we wuz to world peace, and the occasional news article on M's increasingly bizarre behavior like the scorpion nation absurdity. It was really only after I reconnected with someone who said their health had been put at grave risk through some unethical behavior on the part of an ayurvedic practitioner at MIU that I began to remember me discomfort with and questions about the Movement that I had never really dealt with - so the process for me dealing with such things began at the time I became a member here on FFL and I came here looking for information and to see if others had had such concerns as I had myself - so for me it has been maybe a year? Or a little less - and a lot of the stuff I have learned from Curtis, Barry, Sal, Rick, watching the David Wants to Fly film and Rick's Batgap interview with Mark Landua brought up more stuff so I am still processing a bit. But you seem to feel that when one processes fully the questions, issues etc about TM and the TMO one then gets into a comfortable place where one just says everything is ok and one should never say that Georgina Wilson lied to my face or like someone posted here about Neil Patterson being an ass cause he wouldn't let the guy use Movement facilities cuz he had a beard. Just cuz we decide that the TMO is a rapacious organization and that Marshy was a fraud, sexual user and huckster doesn't mean we still have issues. If you are indeed enlightened, does it mean you are still processing something about people who call the Movement and Marshy what they were and are? ________________________________ From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up "I shall put you in with Nabby and Dumbass as not understanding your motives." Sal, I'll make my "motive" E-Zee P-Zee for you, regarding rehashing these historical events: 10 years = 3,650 days = 87,600 hours. 20 years = 7,300 days = 175,200 hours. 30 years = 10,950 days = 262,800 hours. I have had plenty of time to think about, and fully resolve, any questions, issues, experiences, and memories of my TM days. How much more time do you and Mike and Barry, etc. need???? I'm starting to feel embarrassed for you guys.:-( --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > It simply wouldn't have been a big blip on my radar screen. > > > > Just more silly TMO blah-blah-blah, tune it out. Vedaland > > > > was a ridiculous notion to start with even when Henning > > > > was still in full cry. > > > > > > What, Judy the great champion of truth and persecutor of > > > the dishonest wouldn't have made as much as a squeak if > > > someone from her so-called spiritual group tried to relieve > > > her of her life savings? > > > > Not when she was on a rounding course, no (not least because > > she didn't have any life savings to be relieved of, as I've > > already noted). > > > > > Hah! I find that rather hard to > > > believe. But then I was there and saw it. > > > > > > Besides, it wasn't about whether the blah-blah was going > > > to happen, it's about dishonest fundraising. > > > > Right. My point was that I would have paid too little > > attention to the blah-blah-blah even to notice that it > > was dishonest. > > Not a very convincing sidestep, I shall put you in with > Nabby and Dumbass as not understanding your motives. >
