[FairfieldLife] Re: There was Time Before the Big Bang But With No Space

[doctordumbass]

Awesome! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
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> > hey John and Ann, definitely some neurons of mine were not initially firing 
> > about all this.  And I appreciate how both of you have remedied that 
> > situation (-:
> > 
> > John, it sounds like Ann is saying that BY DEFINITION a sound is an energy 
> > wave that hits a human ear drum and is then interpreted by a human brain to 
> > be a sound.  This makes sense.  Then I wondered: well what about animals 
> > and what about human who cannot hear?  And I like how you extend this 
> > avenue of thought even farther, John.  But isn't it true that we can only 
> > assume that the laws of physics will be preserved?  And are you saying 
> > that consciousness is the ultimate perceiver?
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe all communication simply comes back to being clear about 
> > definitions.  Anyway, I'm feeling very philosophical now.
> > 
> > Ann I chuckled at your joke about the echo but will restrain myself and not 
> > put a you know what such as I did in first sentence above.  Here's another 
> > question:  in the absence of a smiley face, smile, LOL, LMHA, etc.  has 
> > humor occurred?
> 
> Very good question and one that seems germane at the moment, given the 
> discussion with Curtis (well, maybe not a discussion, he was clearly a little 
> grumpy about me not finding Jesus being euthanized instead of hung on a cross 
> joke funny) about different "audiences".
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> I think smiley faces are compensations for the fact you can't show someone 
> how you feel by a tone of voice or facial expression. They are either used to 
> communicate the fact that what one just wrote was without malice or they are 
> used (as in Barry's case) all the time so I don't know what they mean.
> 
> And as we know, you can throw something out there you think is funny but God 
> only knows what the other guy thinks about it so then we can get into a large 
> subject of what is humour; is there an absolute or pure form that means 
> everyone will find something/it funny or is it completely relative like art 
> or virtually everything else we perceive as individuals on the planet?
> 
> But back to that smiley face. I don't trust those. I think they are devious 
> little devils which pop up under all kinds of situations and masquerade as 
> friendly. In fact, I would go so far as to say the civilization and culture 
> as we know it today is being undermined and destroyed by the colon and 
> left-facing parantheses signs juxtaposed in the way that they are ( oh, that 
> and the word "awesome"). Beware these two forces in our midst - they will be 
> our undoing.
> > 
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> > ________________________________
> >  From: John <jr_esq@>
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:22 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There was Time Before the Big Bang But With No 
> > Space
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
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> > > > Share,
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> > > > The physicist is making a bold statement there and she knows it.  She's 
> > > > asking for a strong backlash when she said time existed even before the 
> > > > Big Bang.  I can see the following questions coming up:  Is Time the 
> > > > essence of God or vice-versa?  Is there time in heaven or the unified 
> > > > field?  Is there a prime mover or the cause of Time?  What proof does 
> > > > she have to make such statements?
> > > > 
> > > > JR
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hey John I very much enjoyed this.  Being a word person, was 
> > > > > amazed to learn that the word time is the noun that occurs most 
> > > > > frequently.  Also her point about atomic clocks off earth running 
> > > > > slower helped me understand the role of gravity in relation to time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I wonder if there can be time if there is no one to perceive its 
> > > > > passage.  Kind of like, if a tree falls in a forest empty of 
> > > > > people, does it make a sound.  To that I say yes.  Because of 
> > > > > the physical properties of trees and ground and sound waves.
> > > 
> > > Although a falling object creates waves of energy that when they hit the 
> > > ear drum produce something we call "sound" I would have to say that if 
> > > there are no eardrums to receive the sound waves there is, in fact not 
> > > sound. There is only the potential for sound if there is the instrument 
> > > (an ear drum) present to have those waves impact it. There has to be a 
> > > recipient in this case who has the tools to transform waves into what he 
> > > know as sound. (I think I just repeated myself about three time. Does 
> > > that mean there is an echo in here?)
> > 
> > Ann,
> > 
> > If a tree fell in an earth-like exoplanet without any humans or humanoids, 
> > would it make a sound?
> > 
> > IMO, the answer is yes because consciousness is everywhere in the universe, 
> > even in a piece of rock.  Also, the laws of physics must be preserved so a 
> > sound of a falling tree will be produced even without humans or humanoids 
> > in the exoplanet.
> > 
> > JR
> >
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