--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > And if I posted her a.m.t. quote: > > > ...goodness only knows what Barry's been > > telling them about me. Given the fact that Barry > > lies *constantly* about me in public--including on > > FFL--the likelihood of his refraining from doing > > so in private is just about nil. > > she'd find some way to say that it *wasn't* really a > claim that I was bad-mouthing her in private email to > FFL members. Judy just doesn't RECOGNIZE that she says > such things.
OK, toots, you asked for it. Here's what I was responding to from Barry: "My *opinion* of what she's been doing lately on FFL is that she is very *much* defending her inalienable right to remain unenlightened. Several people there, who have an off-board conversation going on another subject entirely, agree with this perception of her 100%." Note that "private email" badmouthing me being exchanged among FFL members was a claim *Barry* made, not me. Notice also that these FFLers are said to *agree with Barry* 100%. So the idea that Barry was among those badmouthing me privately was one *also* introduced by Barry, not by me. All I did was wonder, in light of Barry's revelation about his little group badmouthing me in private, was what *else* he was telling them about me, given his propensity to lie about me in public. When the person you're talking about isn't present to contest a lie, there's no inhibition whatsoever about making up the tallest tales you can think of. Let's look again at Barry's original lie: "On a.m.t., Judy is on record as believing that I write all of you in private email to say bad things about her and make you think bad things about her." In fact, I "believed" Barry was saying bad things in private about me *because he had just said that was what he was doing*. Oh, and notice the phrase "all of you" in the original lie. That has been delicately left out of his paraphrase above. Experienced, chronic liars like Barry tend to make use of fractional truths to deliberately convey an impression contrary to fact, and then complain that those who unravel the carefully spun tissue of untruths surrounding a minuscule bit of fact are just "nitpicking." Ironically, one Andrew Skolnick, the author of the disgracefully untruthful article about TM in the Journal of the American Medical Association, who spent quite some time on alt.m.t awhile back trying to spread still more untruths about TM, used a very similar tactic. He had missed some posts from me, so I re-sent them to him privately, using a rude word in the subject heading. Andrew proceeded to make a post to alt.m.t in which he claimed I had been sending him "obscene email." Technically not entirely false--if you consider the term "scumbag" obscene--but designed to convey an impression distinctly contrary to fact in the absence of the necessary context, just as Barry has attempted to do. Except that Barry seems to have forgotten our exchange is on the public record, so the context is easily documented. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/