Amen.:-)
--- In [email protected], "seventhray27" <steve.sundur@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > Point taken. I recognize the trade off in what I said. However, since
> a few people here are able to comprehend what Robin posts, I consider it
> within the realm of possibility that anyone can.
> >
> > Why not pick a passage of his, that is sufficiently vexing for you,
> and manageable for discussion, and bring it up? I will happily discuss
> it with you. Trying to eat the entire elephant at once, though, is too
> much.
>
>
> That's a fair request. But the truth of the matter is, I really don't
> care that much. If others wish to do so, that would be of interest to
> me, and actually now would be a good time to engage in such an exercise,
> because there might be a minimum of interference.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, "context shift" was not the right phrase. That's why I said,
> > > "similar to". No matter, just some poetic license on my part.
> > > But I am perplexed by what you say below. After all, you made a
> > > specific statement about something. I did not make the statement.
> The
> > > statement seemed implausible to me, that's why I asked for some
> > > clarification. I don't really know how I would be able to clarify or
> > > back up a statement you made about something.
> > > But if you don't care to do it, then that's your prerogative. But I
> do
> > > feel some compunction to try to back up statements that I make. But
> > > that does not seem to be your m-o.
> > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Steve, actually I didn't shift context at all. You asked me to
> do
> > > something for you, and I declined, preferring that you do it
> yourself.
> > > Where's the context shift? A context shift would be if you had asked
> me,
> > > and all of a sudden I was up in your grill about something, which is
> not
> > > the case. Jeez.
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim, is this akin to "shifting the context".
> > > > >
> > > > > You made a declaration. Someone, (me in this case), asked to
> > > provide some evidence for it, and you declined. And now, LG is one
> > > having to explain himself? Jeez.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I taught difficult technical material to adults for twenty
> years,
> > > by learning it on my own, first. Time for you to get off your ass
> and do
> > > it yourself...I am amazed at your snarkiness, given that you were
> > > supposedly a professor of something, once.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], laughinggull108 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aw shucks, dumbass, I was rooting for ya not only that you
> > > *would* do it but *could* do it...very similar to the "dog ate my
> > > homework". Well, Steve, it'll remain in the holy archives that you
> *did*
> > > try, just as others here have asked those "in the know" to interpret
> the
> > > writings of you know who. The evidence seems to be leaning towards
> > > nobody really knows what he's talking about. Too bad as I was really
> > > hoping that we had a saint in our midst.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry Steve, too much trouble. That's why I am retired -
> don't
> > > have to do the heavy lifting anymore.:-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27"
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Last week, I somehow found myself reading about
> fossils
> > > and the best
> > > > > > > > > places to find them. Sedimentary rock, that which is
> formed
> > > by
> > > > > > > > > compression is the only place they are found, vs. in
> igneous
> > > and
> > > > > > > > > metamorphic rocks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Robin has the writing ability to work methodically
> down
> > > through the
> > > > > > > > > fossil record, to the bedrock, when approaching
> someone's
> > > consciousness.
> > > > > > > > > For those who doubt this, diagram out any of his
> writing,
> > > and you will
> > > > > > > > > see clear first, second, and third set assumptions, each
> > > supported by
> > > > > > > > > the previous. Very clean and perfectly constructed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jim, I find this interesting. I realize it might entail
> > > some work on
> > > > > > > > > your part, but could you give an example of this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This approach of Robin's, then, can be substantiated
> as
> > > being in the
> > > > > > > > > very least, logical. Through the reactions of his
> targets,
> > > including
> > > > > > > > > himself, he also (inadvertently?) reveals something
> about
> > > how we see
> > > > > > > > > ourselves, often as a shifting mass of emotionally
> tinged
> > > reactions,
> > > > > > > > > jellied memories. Not through this verifiable, logical
> > > deduction.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Verifiable, logical deduction works well for external
> > > stuff, like
> > > > > > > > > determining where to find the fossil record. But most
> people
> > > do not like
> > > > > > > > > such dispassionate rigor, applied to their own
> > > self-examination.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So Judy can argue for the validity of Robin's writing,
> and
> > > Steve can
> > > > > > > > > argue for its discomfort, and both are correct.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which then begs the question, if FFL is all about a
> search
> > > for meaning
> > > > > > > > > and personal truth, what are those people doing on here,
> who
> > > continually
> > > > > > > > > avoid personal truth, by shifting context? What is the
> > > implicit
> > > > > > > > > agreement we have all made, to validate the dialogue
> here,
> > > seek personal
> > > > > > > > > truth, or be comfortable with each other? Or both?
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