Hmmm. That was pretty profound Ravi - you make many interesting points. My favorite thing you said was "who fucking knows." Smile.
>________________________________ > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:27 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? > > > > >Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and >reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think >being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what >works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely >low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle >their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly >channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt >earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of >bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. > > >Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal >or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, >Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I >will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and >I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) > > >But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless >reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness >incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one >Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking >knows. > > > > > >On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >>I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to >>consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to >>be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a >>friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to >>God might I get?) >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM >>> >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from >>>you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch >>>impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony >>>behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other >>>person's feeling or deny that it even exists. >>> >>> >>>Wow, good - thank you. >>> >>> >>> >>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I >>>>wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. >>>>But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is >>>>exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang >>>>of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, >>>>offended someone. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>________________________________ >>>>> From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >>>>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM >>>>> >>>>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's >>>>>work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should >>>>>apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how >>>>>>about that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>> From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. " >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over >>>>>>>backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't >>>>>>>>have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to >>>>>>>>pay "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang >>>>>>>>rape" description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to >>>>>>>>showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song >>>>>>>>could have been talking about "consensual" activities in where the >>>>>>>>woman was enjoying be attended to "down in the pines" (and I >>>>>>>>paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, >>>>>>>>I must agree. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden >>>>>>>>messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like >>>>>>>>to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume >>>>>>>>incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I >>>>>>>>asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was >>>>>>>>embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until >>>>>>>>now - "gang rape" reminded me of psychological rape - only because they >>>>>>>>both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been >>>>>>>>offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. >>>>>>>>Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is >>>>>>>>not too far from the truth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do >>>>>>>>appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song >>>>>>>>and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation >>>>>>>>- by you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>> From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM >>>>>>>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and >>>>>>>>>your posting intentions are unfriendly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and winning >>>>>>>>>her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow >>>>>>>>>agenda. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula >>>>>>>>><chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy >>>>>>>>>> but this >>>>>>>>>> one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking >>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>> questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for >>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>> trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write any of >>>>>>>>>> this" >>>>>>>>>> - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the >>>>>>>>>> gang >>>>>>>>>> rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it >>>>>>>>>> or I >>>>>>>>>> should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang >>>>>>>>>> rape - in >>>>>>>>>> this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some >>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>> would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of >>>>>>>>>> victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no >>>>>>>>>> intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music >>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>> fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some >>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>> may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend <authfriend@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is "to be >>>>>>>>>> > understood by other people here," it doesn't seem that >>>>>>>>>> > he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked >>>>>>>>>> > him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention >>>>>>>>>> > to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out >>>>>>>>>> > her context as if it had never existed. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he >>>>>>>>>> > respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be >>>>>>>>>> > disturbed? >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Man, there are very creepy things going on on this >>>>>>>>>> > forum lately. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > I have no idea why you would write any of this. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no >>>>>>>>>> > > meaning >>>>>>>>>> > directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting >>>>>>>>>> > music with >>>>>>>>>> > another music lover. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed >>>>>>>>>> > > toward >>>>>>>>>> > you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There >>>>>>>>>> > are no >>>>>>>>>> > hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you >>>>>>>>>> > here. I >>>>>>>>>> > have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my >>>>>>>>>> > goal is >>>>>>>>>> > to be understood by other people here. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" >>>>>>>>>> > > <emilymae.reyn@> >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his >>>>>>>>>> > > > psychological rape >>>>>>>>>> > > > post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: >>>>>>>>>> > > > "nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis >>>>>>>>>> > > > referred >>>>>>>>>> > > > me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably >>>>>>>>>> > > > should have >>>>>>>>>> > > > then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed >>>>>>>>>> > > > his >>>>>>>>>> > > > boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was >>>>>>>>>> > > > teasing >>>>>>>>>> > > > him; he got angry...." >>>>>>>>>> > > > God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not >>>>>>>>>> > > > pick up on >>>>>>>>>> > > > that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You >>>>>>>>>> > > > never >>>>>>>>>> > > > did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. >>>>>>>>>> > > > If you >>>>>>>>>> > > > were, than I say "Fuck you, man, fuck you." If you weren't >>>>>>>>>> > > > than maybe >>>>>>>>>> > > > you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? >>>>>>>>>> > > > I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's >>>>>>>>>> > > > a song >>>>>>>>>> > > > from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a >>>>>>>>>> > > > performance >>>>>>>>>> > period >>>>>>>>>> > > > that would be best left forever. >>>>>>>>>> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE >>>>>>>>>> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE> >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > >
