I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?)
>________________________________ > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? > > > > >Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from >you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch >impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, >no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's >feeling or deny that it even exists. > > >Wow, good - thank you. > > > >On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >>Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't >>clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we >>should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the >>way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I >>have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM >>> >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's >>>work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers >>> >>> >>>So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should >>>apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about >>>>that? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>________________________________ >>>>> From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >>>>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. " >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over >>>>>backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have >>>>>>even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay >>>>>>"particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang rape" >>>>>>description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing >>>>>>it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have >>>>>>been talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was >>>>>>enjoying be attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is >>>>>>a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages >>>>>>and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be >>>>>>understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume >>>>>>incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I >>>>>>asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded >>>>>>in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - >>>>>>"gang rape" reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both >>>>>>use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been >>>>>>offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your >>>>>>first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too >>>>>>far from the truth. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do >>>>>>appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and >>>>>>very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by >>>>>>you? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>> From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and >>>>>>>your posting intentions are unfriendly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and winning her >>>>>>>approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula >>>>>>><chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking >>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even >>>>>>>> trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write any of >>>>>>>> this" >>>>>>>> - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang >>>>>>>> rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it >>>>>>>> or I >>>>>>>> should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape >>>>>>>> - in >>>>>>>> this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of >>>>>>>> victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no >>>>>>>> intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a >>>>>>>> fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend <authfriend@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is "to be >>>>>>>> > understood by other people here," it doesn't seem that >>>>>>>> > he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked >>>>>>>> > him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention >>>>>>>> > to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out >>>>>>>> > her context as if it had never existed. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he >>>>>>>> > respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be >>>>>>>> > disturbed? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Man, there are very creepy things going on on this >>>>>>>> > forum lately. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > I have no idea why you would write any of this. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no >>>>>>>> > > meaning >>>>>>>> > directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music >>>>>>>> > with >>>>>>>> > another music lover. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed >>>>>>>> > > toward >>>>>>>> > you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There >>>>>>>> > are no >>>>>>>> > hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you >>>>>>>> > here. I >>>>>>>> > have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my >>>>>>>> > goal is >>>>>>>> > to be understood by other people here. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" >>>>>>>> > > <emilymae.reyn@> >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his >>>>>>>> > > > psychological rape >>>>>>>> > > > post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: >>>>>>>> > > > "nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis >>>>>>>> > > > referred >>>>>>>> > > > me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably >>>>>>>> > > > should have >>>>>>>> > > > then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed >>>>>>>> > > > his >>>>>>>> > > > boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was >>>>>>>> > > > teasing >>>>>>>> > > > him; he got angry...." >>>>>>>> > > > God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick >>>>>>>> > > > up on >>>>>>>> > > > that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You >>>>>>>> > > > never >>>>>>>> > > > did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If >>>>>>>> > > > you >>>>>>>> > > > were, than I say "Fuck you, man, fuck you." If you weren't than >>>>>>>> > > > maybe >>>>>>>> > > > you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? >>>>>>>> > > > I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a >>>>>>>> > > > song >>>>>>>> > > > from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance >>>>>>>> > period >>>>>>>> > > > that would be best left forever. >>>>>>>> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE >>>>>>>> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > >
