--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <snip> > > > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based also, but I invite > > > her to explicitly dewscribe what she thinks a club looks like and > > > what happens inside. > > > > If you think my view of strip clubs depends on what > > I think they look like and what happens inside--other > > than women dancing nude for men--you haven't understood > > my objection. But that's been obvious for a while now. > > And I have invited you to tell us what your objections are. Thus far > you have just been dismissive, IMO, and said its too depressing to > contemplate that in todays age an intelligent person doesn't > understand how strip clubs objectify woman. I am afraid its not my > nature to be guilt-tripped and slink away in shame when loaded terms > are cast, if that is your intention. Maybe its not. > > Regardless, once and for all, explain your position. I am open to your > views. I am not seeking to win arguments here, but am seeking > understanding. > > Did you read my prior post on my view that society and media creates a > strong fog of objectification in many. And in my experience, exotic > dance clubs help in de-objectification -- that is helps some gain > better balance of internal values one has for various attributes of > women. To understand such a view does require a reality-based view of > what occurs in upscale clubs. I infer, perhaps incorrectly, that your > view is not close to reality based, but an imagination based-view. > Thus what you believe goes on on strip clubs is relevant to the above > point,IMO. > > But for starters, go ahead and explain your objection. It appears to > be singularly based: women dancing nude for men, outside the context. > > If context is unimportant then it raises a lot of questions: > > Do you object to women dancng nude for an audience in a Broadway play? > > Do you object to Mardi Gras dancing of women for beads? > I know, they are only topless for the most part, but so are the > dancers in 80% of strip clubs. >
The same objection applies to Mardi Gras, of course. As for nudity in a play or whatever, that's usually a different setting. > Do you object to women dancing topless, or flashing guys, at a college > party? It's not an objection, per se, but an observation of what the situation reinforces. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
