Sal, did you ever know Campbell in your past TM days?
________________________________ From: sparaig <lengli...@cox.net> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna like Christian evangelizing I asked Anthony Campbell, author of _The Seven Stages of Consciousness_, why he became a Buddhist and no longer does TM. He replied because he had meditated the requisite number of years (I assume 7) and TM didn't work as advertised (he wasn't enlightened) so he moved on. I expect the same thing is at work here: MMY said that floating would happen "real soon now" and an awful lot of people who learned the TM-Sidhis eventually decided "it ain't going to happen" and moved on to practices that they felt were giving them more profound and authentic experiences than "hopping like a frog." I assume that he did things the way he did because he believed that if enough people learned the TM-Sidhis fast enough, the world's consciousness WOULD change to support floating, and thus he would have fulfilled his own prophecy by being excessively enthusiastic about how soon people would be floating (I still believe that he believed in floating as a real aspect of the Yogic Flying technique). Once the disillusionment set in, the people who promised grander things had a ready-made audience for them since most TM-Sidhas are self-selected for wanting powers and other "specialness," regardless of what hand-written letters they signed to the contrary. And why shouldn't they become disillusioned? They were told they were "special" in every way, simply by learning the TM-Sidhis practices and there they were, decades later, and still no floating. MMY had attempted to con world consciousness itself into growing faster than it could, and the people he used for that con moved on. Even within the Extended Maharishi Effect perspective, there's still hope. THere's plenty of school administrators in Latin America what want a stress management technique for their students, and while the ultra-cynical former True Believers may believe that TM doesn't really work at all, there's plenty of large-scale demonstrations that it does work wonders in very stress-laden schools, and that is a more viable way of getting huge numbers of people to learn and practice together, I think. and... if the kids in Mexico ever start floating, that would be a game-changer all around. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > in Fairfield, It's like there has been a cultural protection or > predisposition in meditators generally against these other more > mood-making or faith-based kinds of groups encroaching very far. It's > like the TM'ers are more scientific and immune from too much iron age > belief structures. You know, Maharishi did study a degree in physics. > Modern science and the scientific process was after all part of his > spiritual revival. Very 21st Century. > Dear Buck, I admire your enthusiasm, your mission, your seemingly > inexhaustible zeal. But I don't believe you for one nanosecond. > Fairfield was a typical midwest town back in the 60's and early 70's: a > town square, local horse show at the ag grounds, 4H, local teens > cruising the town square on Friday and Saturday nights round and round. > Then came MIU and the townspeople, for the most part, accepted this new > strange breed of student. They weren't like Parson's students with their > fraternities and homecoming queens but these new immigrants were > peaceful enough. Now, it is like someone turned on some sort of homing > radar device that has put out the call to every breed of saint, healer, > guru, channel known to mankind and they have descended, in droves, to > Fairfield Iowa. Why would this be? Because "there has been a cultural > protection or predisposition in meditators generally against these other > more mood-making or faith-based kinds of groups encroaching very far."? > What the hell happened since I was there in 1983? All hell has broken > loose, that's what. > > -Buck in the Dome > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kind of surprising that the Krishna's have not evangelized Fairfield > before now for as hard as they have worked the airports and > street-corners once upon a time. The Christians have always been hoping > to try. The Buddhists however are almost non-existent in Fairfield. > > > -Buck in the Dome > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if > you go to a hare krishna deal? > > > > > > > > > > I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers > attending Hare Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating > hindoo dogma to be replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life > abnegating hindoo dogma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation? > > > > > > > > It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are > out in the world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield. > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Buck > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, > May 11th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > Dear Om Tat Sat; > > > > > It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, > Iowa that there is so much spirituality going on all the time. 'So much > to do, so little time'. And so many choices at any moment. I would > love to attend your kirtan and meal. Except that I have an obligation > to attend the May Fair today at the same time. I may drop by your > satsang afterwards for left-overs. This is so Fairfield. > > > > > Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield. > > > > > It's a joy, > > > > > -Buck in the Dome > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends: > > > > > > > > > > > > Please honor us with your presence at > > > > > > today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in > > > > > > Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. > If you can not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your > > > > > > heart, simply by reading the adventure below. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have promised to deliver a lecture of > > > > > > flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as > supreme) > > > > > > tradition. Here is one such example among many. The lecture > will > > > > > > begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at > 12 pm. At 1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared > for > > > > > > the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving > devotion. > > > > > > Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, > it is > > > > > > transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of > Krishna > > > > > > upon all who experience it. Even those who hear with faith > about > > > > > > such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love > for > > > > > > God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka, > > > > > > has been discovered, off the west coast of India. > > > > > > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas > > > > > > city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea . > India, > > > > > > there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons. He had > eight > > > > > > sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died In those > times, > > > > > > the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of > his > > > > > > citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant > sons > > > > > > and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within > his > > > > > > power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such > things > > > > > > would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings > engage > > > > > > their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation > upon the > > > > > > Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which > promote > > > > > > the welfare of the individual and society at large. > > > > > > > > > > > > But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda > > > > > > was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore > > > > > > concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and > the > > > > > > devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to > gratify > > > > > > his senses and for the pleasure of his court. > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in > > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear > these > > > > > > criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana > that > > > > > > he would protect the next child. But the brahmana was so > upset that > > > > > > he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make > > > > > > promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill. > But > > > > > > Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the > child, > > > > > > for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, > the > > > > > > King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and > spiritually > > > > > > empowered bow, Gandiva. Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and > the > > > > > > son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire > if he > > > > > > could not protect the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > But the child died, and Arjuna, true to > > > > > > his word, prepared to sacrifice himself. However, Shri > Krishna, the > > > > > > friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to > give up > > > > > > his life. â€�"We shall go and find the child.†> he assured him. > > > > > > There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer > space, > > > > > > but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, > summoned > > > > > > His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the > universe in > > > > > > search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court > of > > > > > > Yamaraja, the superintendent of death. Krishna therefore > decided to > > > > > > search beyond this universe, so he directed His chariot across > the > > > > > > dense darkness which covers all the living beings in this > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to this darkness, we are thinking > > > > > > that this is just another story, whose truth is simply > allegorical. > > > > > > But Krishna evoked His Sudarshan Chakra by whose glowing > effulgence > > > > > > the darkness was dissipated. This disk of light is also a > > > > > > personality, and its name, Sudarshan, indicates that it > provides good > > > > > > (su) audience or vision (darshan). A power, big wheel indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > Following Sudarshan, Krishna and Arjuna > > > > > > approached Lord Narayana, whose name indicates that he is the > source > > > > > > of all naras, or personalities. Now, I shall quote directly > from > > > > > > Shrimad Bhagavatam, available online at www.Vedabase.net. > > > > > > SB > > > > > > 10.89.58: > > > > > > [Lord MahÄ-Viṣṇusaid:] I brought the > brÄhmaṇa's > > > > > > sons here because I wanted to see the two of you, My > expansions, who > > > > > > have descended to the earth to save the principles of > religion. As > > > > > > soon as you finish killing the demons who burden the earth, > quickly > > > > > > come back here to Me. > > > > > > SB > > > > > > 10.89.59: > > > > > > Although all your desires are completely fulfilled, O best of > exalted > > > > > > personalities, for the benefit of the people in general you > should > > > > > > continue to exemplify religious behavior as the sages Naraand > NÄrÄyaṇa. > > > > > > SB > > > > > > 10.89.60-61: > > > > > > Thus instructed by the Supreme Lord of the topmost planet, > Kṛṣṇaand Arjunaassented by chanting oḿ, > > > > > > and then they bowed down to almighty Lord > MahÄ-Viṣṇu. > > > > > > Taking the brÄhmaṇa's > > > > > > sons with them, they returned with great delight to > DvÄrakÄby the same path along which they had come. There they > presented the brÄhmaṇawith his sons, who were in the same > infant bodies in which they had > > > > > > been lost. > > > > > > SB > > > > > > 10.89.62: > > > > > > Having seen the domain of Lord Viṣṇu, Arjunawas > totally amazed. He concluded that whatever extraordinary power a > > > > > > person exhibits can only be a manifestation of > ÅšrÄ«Kṛṣṇa's > > > > > > mercy. > > > > > > Please come to our kirtan and festival, > > > > > > and fly with us beyond the confines of this material world. > The > > > > > > more, the merrier, so bring your friends. 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