Good news. I've got a better understanding of the situation and am ready
to move on.  I'm sorry if the process didn't move along at your
prescribed time table.   Perhaps I can do better next time.

P.S. If you ever come to St. Louis, I recommend you try the toasted
raviolis.  We seem to be the only place you can get them.  Be sure to
get some extra parmesan cheese and extra marinara sauce.


--- In [email protected], obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Ahh, nothing like a little animation to the alleged story, here, boys
and girls. Let's go deeper into the rabbit hole
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxgvMHCDXA
>
> Stop, Steve! This whole thing is looking ridicules to us all and as
you say, I am not Shakespeare, (Don't have a dick, like you say that I
am infatuated with.) the draining of time and place on a subject to
prove what? About someone not even posting here anymore...you must want
to desire to see that person post again. I can't take it anymore! Stop!
Steve! Stop! Please!
> Go after Nabby at least, because he will at least attempt to rebuttal
and maybe even through in a really nice song or two from the way back
machine. You sir, are picking on a man who is not present. If he were
dead, than that is fair game too, to contemplate the what was, has been
aspects.
> Become that nice person you were before. Be the husband, the father,
the man with a life. Please don't let us down to think if we all had a
life as grand as yours, we would be posting here on FFL? :)
>
> --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why he didn't say, right from the start, "yes I have struck
> > > > my students, and here's the context........"
> > >
> > > Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students
> > > in a very specific context in which he believed he had not
> > > done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter
> > > for that reason.
> >
> > Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious
> > charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record
straight.
> > If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a
> > pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do
> > that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity
on
> > his part, or a lack of integrity.
> >
> > From the open letter:
> >
> > When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it
was
> > not
> > true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I
done
> > what I
> > was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a
> > seminar
> > would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a
> > seminar.
> >
> > It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny
> > something I knew
> > was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably,
eventually
> > the
> > truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having
at
> > the very
> > least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I
never
> > hesitated
> > for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand
deny
> > having
> > done what I was accused of in one context—which was true: I did
not
> > strike
> > anyone during a seminar—while at the same time feeling an
obligation
> > to
> > acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happen—on rare
> > occasions—in a quite
> > different and more intimate context.
> >
> > I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am
morally
> > culpable
> > in having acted as I have.
> >
> > And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his
reasons
> > for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had
been
> > raised rather than giving, at least, the "appearance" of trying to
> > conceal it.
> >
> > But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it
did,
> > so I will respect that.
> >
> > If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful
representation of
> > themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in
> > fact
> > defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the
> > beneficent
> > and merciful inspiration of my enlightenment—consciously as it
were,
> > or
> > unconsciously colluding with the fallen angel—I might, on
occasion
> > shock that
> > person out of such an identification. And this took the form
sometimes
> > of
> > striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly
think
> > it was
> > more than this. And this was not something that happened on a
regular
> > basis. It
> > was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted
by
> > someone
> > who was there.
> >
> > This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence.
It
> > was an
> > inspired—and much resisted (I hated it)—response in me in
order
> > to facilitate
> > the process whereby a person could experience liberation—even
> > momentarily—from
> > their trance caused by their being identified with the particular
fallen
> > angel
> > which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and
ultimate
> > existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense
of
> > who they
> > really were.
> >
> > Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my
> > enlightenment, to see
> > that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my
> > perception
> > had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in
> > terms of
> > this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each
> > person
> > absolutely on their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And
therefore
> > I am
> > sorry for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this
> > hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock
the
> > person
> > out of his or her identification with the fallen angel which was
> > tormenting and
> > deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth.
> >
>


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