Thanks. (-:
--- In [email protected], obbajeeba wrote: > > > Good to hear, Steve. > I like you, your posts. I was only trying to annoyingly put attention on something that has way too much attention. > If I was to post a bunch of crap that happened around my life on here, it would become the same. Controversial, entertaining, fun, stupid and eventually annoying. > Toasted ravioli's I honestly did not check out that link. ha. > Maybe I could make some from home? > > Glad to see you back in good spirits. :) > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > > > Good news. I've got a better understanding of the situation and am ready > > to move on. I'm sorry if the process didn't move along at your > > prescribed time table. Perhaps I can do better next time. > > > > P.S. If you ever come to St. Louis, I recommend you try the toasted > > raviolis. We seem to be the only place you can get them. Be sure to > > get some extra parmesan cheese and extra marinara sauce. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > Ahh, nothing like a little animation to the alleged story, here, boys > > and girls. Let's go deeper into the rabbit hole > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxgvMHCDXA > > > > > > Stop, Steve! This whole thing is looking ridicules to us all and as > > you say, I am not Shakespeare, (Don't have a dick, like you say that I > > am infatuated with.) the draining of time and place on a subject to > > prove what? About someone not even posting here anymore...you must want > > to desire to see that person post again. I can't take it anymore! Stop! > > Steve! Stop! Please! > > > Go after Nabby at least, because he will at least attempt to rebuttal > > and maybe even through in a really nice song or two from the way back > > machine. You sir, are picking on a man who is not present. If he were > > dead, than that is fair game too, to contemplate the what was, has been > > aspects. > > > Become that nice person you were before. Be the husband, the father, > > the man with a life. Please don't let us down to think if we all had a > > life as grand as yours, we would be posting here on FFL? :) > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why he didn't say, right from the start, "yes I have struck > > > > > > my students, and here's the context........" > > > > > > > > > > Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students > > > > > in a very specific context in which he believed he had not > > > > > done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter > > > > > for that reason. > > > > > > > > Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious > > > > charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record > > straight. > > > > If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a > > > > pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do > > > > that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity > > on > > > > his part, or a lack of integrity. > > > > > > > > From the open letter: > > > > > > > > When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it > > was > > > > not > > > > true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I > > done > > > > what I > > > > was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a > > > > seminar > > > > would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a > > > > seminar. > > > > > > > > It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny > > > > something I knew > > > > was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, > > eventually > > > > the > > > > truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having > > at > > > > the very > > > > least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I > > never > > > > hesitated > > > > for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand > > deny > > > > having > > > > done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did > > not > > > > strike > > > > anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an > > obligation > > > > to > > > > acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare > > > > occasionsin a quite > > > > different and more intimate context. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am > > morally > > > > culpable > > > > in having acted as I have. > > > > > > > > And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his > > reasons > > > > for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had > > been > > > > raised rather than giving, at least, the "appearance" of trying to > > > > conceal it. > > > > > > > > But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it > > did, > > > > so I will respect that. > > > > > > > > If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful > > representation of > > > > themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in > > > > fact > > > > defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the > > > > beneficent > > > > and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it > > were, > > > > or > > > > unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on > > occasion > > > > shock that > > > > person out of such an identification. And this took the form > > sometimes > > > > of > > > > striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly > > think > > > > it was > > > > more than this. And this was not something that happened on a > > regular > > > > basis. It > > > > was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted > > by > > > > someone > > > > who was there. > > > > > > > > This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. > > It > > > > was an > > > > inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in > > order > > > > to facilitate > > > > the process whereby a person could experience liberationeven > > > > momentarilyfrom > > > > their trance caused by their being identified with the particular > > fallen > > > > angel > > > > which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and > > ultimate > > > > existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense > > of > > > > who they > > > > really were. > > > > > > > > Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my > > > > enlightenment, to see > > > > that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my > > > > perception > > > > had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in > > > > terms of > > > > this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each > > > > person > > > > absolutely on their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And > > therefore > > > > I am > > > > sorry for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this > > > > hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock > > the > > > > person > > > > out of his or her identification with the fallen angel which was > > > > tormenting and > > > > deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth. > > > > > > > > > >
