Seriously, UC is *so* low vibe.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> Off with my head!
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have
> > remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the
> > ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys
> > (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already
> > > happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in
> > > UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental
> > > integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > >
> > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative
> > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary,
> > > but because they stop making sense, overall, which is different. And
> > > since water flows downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that
> > > direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits
> > > the moment.
> > >
> > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the
> > > object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity
> > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely,
> > > paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment,
> > > encompassing potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC).
> > >
> > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is
> > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you
> > > coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the
> > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur.
> > >
> > > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems
> > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any
> > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely
> > > > true, though, of course.
> > > >
> > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and
> > > > the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a
> > > > pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he
> > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's
> > > > > all. I am not saying he should have been more contemplative, only
> > > > > that hopefully he has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of
> > > > > human consciousness.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@
> > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@
> > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> > > > > > > > > > > <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that
> > > > > > > > > > > > he "had
> > > > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and,
> > > > > > > > > > > > at least
> > > > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid
> > > > > > > > > > > that serves
> > > > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for
> > > > > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice
> > > > > > > > > > about when
> > > > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected,
> > > > > > > > > > and it
> > > > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said
> > > > > > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
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