--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
<snip>
> J: 
> > I ask because I've said in a number of posts that the
> > longer I meditate, the less overshadowed I am.
> 
> I apologize, I dont always read all of your posts. (Mostly during
> periods when its "you said, no you said" diologues. Sorry.) So I may
> have inadvertently missed some good stuff.

No, I was just wondering if I didn't say it
clearly or something.

> > And certainly MMY teaches that it's a gradual process,
> > so I'm not sure why any TMer would hold that belief.
> 
> Yes, it boggles the mind. But doesn't some of the diologue here seem
> to imply it? Maybe its just me and I am missing some peoples points.

I don't recall having read anyone saying here
that you meditate for many years with no 
discernible change and then suddenly be in
CC, at least not as the standard pattern with
TM.  But I could have missed it.

The other dogma, that you can just *decide* to
become suddenly enlightened, we've been seeing
a lot.





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