It is a fact that here are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda.
So, how would the SSRS know any bijas from being a Vedic Pandit?
There are no bija mantras mentioned by Patanjali. The historical Buddha
doesn't mention any bija mantras. So, the bija mantras usage must have
come AFTER the rise of Buddhism (463 BC) in India and Patanjali's Yoga
Sutras (200 BC).
The Siddha tradition of using bija mantras can be traced back to the
Vajrayana Buddhism which probably began at Odisha, or in the modern day
Swat Valley in what is now Pakistan during the Gupta Age. Vajrayana
Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain
teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an
initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book.
So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM
teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the
list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS
get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija
mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen
different bijas to one student. Go figure.
On 10/26/2013 11:20 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
SSRS, although a mahapundit of the four vedas, should have asked you
first. Although he had a number of teachers other than MMY, he
obviously never asked permission from you - the "punditster". I'm sure
he regrets the omission to this day.
I'm also sure you could clarify his pronunciation of the riks, reveal
the hidden connections between between the vaious chhanda-s. Maybe you
could obtain the blessing of the deva-s and get him authorized for
using these cheating bijas stolen from the Buddhists.
You should call him and offer to help him out. However, I wouldn't use
your Prairie Dog credentials. Rather you should just introduce
yourself as a pandit dedicated to cleaning up the fallen lineage of
pseudo-pandits using fake bijas. You could give him a copy of the The
Tantric Tradition by Leopold Fischer (agehananda bharati) and just
point out "You need to read this and stop ripping everyone off!"
So great of you to consider this.
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote:
Under whose authority would the SSRS be giving out any bija mantras?
If you can't reveal where MMY got the bijas, so how could you say SSRS
got any bijas? There aren't any bijas mentioned in the Vedas. From
what I've read, SSRS, like Deepak Chopra and Charlie Lutes, never
became TM teachers by completing a TTC. So, how would they be knowing
any bijas? Go figure.
On 10/24/2013 7:41 PM, emptybill@... <mailto:emptybill@...> wrote:
Authfriend: Today at 8:16 AM
So what would the problem be if "OM" wasn't included in a maha-mantra
but rather along with, say, a bija mantra like what TM uses? Did Sri
Sri give out bija mantras, or just the maha-mantras?
*SSRS does indeed give out bija-mantras for meditation. However, I
was never taught his sahaj-meditation technique so I did not receive
one of his chosen meditation bija-mantras.
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*What I asked him for (asked four times over a 7 year period) was
"guru-mantra". When he finally gave it to me it was a maha-mantra
that "named" the source of our teaching lineage. If you consider the
guru-puja which is performed **at initiation **then you can guess
which mantra. I received it along with another one of SSRS's
teachers who often stayed at my house. According to that teacher, he
also received the same maha-mantra (it includes om).*
*I couldn't have asked for a better mantra. I use it after my
tm-mantra and before I perform sanyama on a few select sutras that
work especially well for me. *
*SSRS did tell me and that all the different bija-mantras naturally
merge into the om sound at the finest level.
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*BTW - the sankhya-yoga scholar said the same ... no problem with
using om if sheltered in a longer mantra. *
