--- In [email protected],  s3raphita wrote:
>
>  Yep, but we were talking about British imitation rock so
> Vince Taylor and Cliff Richard are two important pioneers
> in the UK. I'm guessing one reason they never made a name
> for themselves in the States is because Americans didn't
> need second-rate copies of their own stars.

Couldn't have said it better. :-)

Plus, the music industry mechanism really wasn't in place
to allow for mass distribution of non-US acts at that time.
There was no market perceived for it, so it didn't really
exist.

BTW, you find the same thing in France, but for another
reason -- the language difference. Plus the fact that rock
sounds *terrible* in French. Rap, it can handle, but rock,
fuggedaboudit. In France, old pop stars like Francoise
Hardy are still minor goddesses, but old rockers like
Johnny Hallyday are major Gods, right up there with
Thor.  :-)

> The Beatles probably made it because they came along
> after rock 'n' roll's heyday and added enough original
> touches of their own to make it more appealing than
> the saccharine-sweet pop that had by then become the
> norm.

Tell it, sista. The US pop music scene was really in its
doldrums before the Beatles. Many of the people who
had grown up on it had gravitated to folk music because
there was *energy* there, and there t'weren't none in
pop.

Then the Beatles arrived, preceded by a wave of near-
hysterical media hype. I'm honestly not sure which con-
tributed more to the Beatles' success in the US -- their
talent, or the hype. I lean to the latter. See enough TV
stories (or, in those days, movie News trailers before
your movie) of star-struck Beatles fans and your young
impressionable mind has already been pre-programmed
to love them when you see them live.

Still, it *was* a phenomenon in the US, Beatlemania.
By the time it struck, I was a full-fledged folkie, both
listening to and performing the "real music," folk
music performed by upscale white artists. :-) So they
had to drag me away from my Dylan and Baez and
the like to listen to a Beatles album. And to be honest,
I wasn't knocked out at first by the sound. Even then,
I was more fascinated by the *trend*, the fact that
so many were so gaga over them.

It took the Rolling Stones to knock my socks off.  :-)




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