Barry claimed he read over 200 books on the Cathars but not a single
book on the Gnostics. Go figure.
Cathars are derived from Bogumils; Bogomils are derived from Paulicans;
Paulicans from Manicheans; Manicheans from Gnostics. Thus the Cathars
are derived from Gnostics.
Barry apparently isn't aware of the Languedocian legend of the 'Queen of
the South', (Reine du Midi), a title a countess of Toulosue, the
'Protectrix', identified with the Syrian goddess Anath who in turn is
closely linked with Isis and the bird-footed Lilith.
Yet another legend current in France is the Meridiana to whom was
conveyed the secrets of alchemy to Gerbert d'Auriliac. The name
Meridiana is derived from 'Mary-Diana' thus linking the Magdalene
legends in the South of France. Lagudedoc was also home to the Knights
Templers in Europe.
Stoyanov thinks that the one single local Langudocian notion in
Catharism was the theology of the belief that Mary Magdalene was the
concubine of Jesus - knowledge that was reserved for the inner circle of
Cathars: "The teaching of Mary Magdalene as the 'wife or 'concubine' of
Christ appears moreover, an original Cathar tradition which doesn not
have any counterpart in Bogomil doctrines".
It is also worth noting that the date of the massacre at Beziers, 22
July 1209, was St Mary Magdalene's Day or the Feast Day of Mary
Magdalene. You'll probably also want to make a note of the fact that
forty years previously the local lord Raymond Trencavel was slain inside
the Church of Mary Magdalene at Beziers.
The early Gnostic Gospels have no hesitation describing the relationship
between Mary Magdalene and Jesus. It's unlikely that the townsfolk would
have access to the Gnostic Gospel, so how do we account for the presence
of Magdalene legends at Beziers, Maxim, and Provencal? It must have been
a powerful legend to cause the entire Inquisition to be formulated just
to root them out. Catharism was the State religion of Languedoc.
Work cited:
'The Hidden Tradition in Europe: The Secret History of Medieval
Christian Heresy'
by Yuri Stoyanov
Arkana, 1995
p. 222-223
Read more:
'The Templars and the Assassins'
by James Wasserman
Destiny, 2001
On 11/21/2013 2:10 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Barry,
According to Wikipedia, the Cathars were practicing a religion that
was not part of the Roman Catholic doctrine. In those days, religious
differences were settled by war.
I'm curious to know if there are still secret sects who practice
Catharism in southern France or elsewhere in Europe today. Writers,
like Dan Brown, could probably sell many books about this subject.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, wrote:
>
> Share,
>
> I believe it would take another Vatican Council to consider the
question of priesthood for women. This council will only happen if the
entire church leadership perceives that women can fill the priestly
duties that are needed in the parishes. If the supply of quality men
who want to be priests dwindles, the church leaders will have to
consider accepting women as priests.
I will merely interject an interesting (at least to me) point of
history. The Albigensian Crusade, more aptly named The Systematic
Extermination Of A Competing Christian Sect We're Going To Call
'Heretics' Because It Sounds Better Than 'We're Afraid Of Them', is
blamed by the majority of historians on the Cathars' rejection of
certain fundamental ideas of Roman dogma. They believed -- and practiced
-- 'heresy'. A more real reason is that the Cathar religion was growing
by leaps and bounds in the areas of Europe in which it had arisen, at a
time when many people were leaving the Roman Church and its coffers were
dwindling. Can't have that. So they called the Cathars 'heretics' and
eliminated the competition.
But one of the minor points of dogma that probably frightened the Roman
Church the most was that the Cathars exemplified almost total parity
between men and women. Women were allowed to hold property in their own
names, in the 1200s, in what is now the south of France. That didn't
happen officially in what is now France until De Gaulle.
Worse, the Cathar priesthood was open equally to men and women. There
were equal numbers of men and women priests. Really, really, really
can't have that. Just sayin'...
> ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com>, sharelong60@ wrote:
>
> John, it's about time! As for the Catholic Church, I wonder who
would
protest more, the clergy in power or the conservative laity, including
nuns.
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, jr_esq@ wrote:
>
> This appears to be the trend among Protestant Christian churches.
But one wonders if the Catholic Church would ever accept women as
priests.
>
>
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